Posted on 03/12/2007 2:43:36 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
Edited on 03/12/2007 11:45:12 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
NY TIMES PLANS TUESDAY HIT ON GORE, NEWSROOM SOURCES TELL DRUDGE: 'Scientists argue that Gore's warnings are full of exaggerated claims and startling errors'... Developing..
From a Rapt Audience, a Call to Cool the Hype
"Hollywood has a thing for Al Gore and his three-alarm film on global warming, An Inconvenient Truth, which won an Academy Award for best documentary. So do many environmentalists, who praise him as a visionary, and many scientists, who laud him for raising public awareness of climate change.
But part of his scientific audience is uneasy. In talks, articles and blog entries that have appeared since his film and accompanying book came out last year, these scientists argue that some of Mr. Gores central points are exaggerated and erroneous. They are alarmed, some say, at what they call his alarmism.
I dont want to pick on Al Gore, Don J. Easterbrook, an emeritus professor of geology at Western Washington University, told hundreds of experts at the annual meeting of the Geological Society of America. But there are a lot of inaccuracies in the statements we are seeing, and we have to temper that with real data..."
Thanks for that data on GW's home in Texas.
Out here in Green California, elite limo and private jet liberal greens are the big buyers and builders of massive homes in the 16 to 20000 square foot size noted by your reference.
Usually it is two liberals in their second or third marriage who build, buy or own these massive homes. They have no children living at home. Yet, these elite green libs are the first ones to tell the rest of us we are using too much of the earth's resources. Often like the Heinz/Kerry's, they have more than one large home. Each home has a fleet of SUVs, luxury cars and often a private jet kept at the local airport.
Denying the problem with rising oceans and glacier melting. Isn't helpful.
You imply that I denied your group think belief that rising oceans and glaciers melting is a problem. Not a natural occurring cycle. See graphs at 178.
If we just say these things are not real, we just get dismissed as not being in touch with reality. There is no way to combat Al Gore from that position.
I've posted to you a couple of times suggesting that the climate cycle will continue as it has and that it's more likely that we're at the end of the interglacial (global warming) and headed to a glacial (global cooling). I've also suggested a couple times that perhaps man's technology advances are and have been thwarting what would otherwise be greater global warming. Response? Silence. Too inconvenient for you? Denial?
If we just say these things are not real, we just get dismissed as not being in touch with reality. There is no way to combat Al Gore from that position.
I agree. Also, that's a nice straw man you attribute to me being on the other side of. I notice you have a lot of "we", "our", "group" and "organization" in your posts yet no acknowledgment of individual authority. Consensus isn't science and you've already acknowledged that.
BTW, Socrates and Jesus championed individual authority yet it was politically correct groupthink that killed them. Which is partially why I follow the money to see what group or government is funding the research.
Yeah, but it's so darn easy people just can't help it!
Aye. Fraser of Lovett.
Freepmail for you.
some great toons at post 330
Thanks, AW. Grampa Dave picked them all up from my recent posts.
D'oh! Well, now you know what I think of them!
Now no one can ever question your taste! ;-)
>>I've posted to you a couple of times suggesting that the climate cycle will continue as it has and that it's more likely that we're at the end of the interglacial (global warming) and headed to a glacial (global cooling). I've also suggested a couple times that perhaps man's technology advances are and have been thwarting what would otherwise be greater global warming. Response? Silence. Too inconvenient for you? Denial?<<
Actually it was going to work... it gets in the way some times.
But I thought I did respond to that one yesterday by saying something along the lines that the people who study it full time don't seem to think that's likely.
>>Thanks for that data on GW's home in Texas.
Out here in Green California, elite limo and private jet liberal greens are the big buyers and builders of massive homes in the 16 to 20000 square foot size noted by your reference.<<
Generally I compare people's lifestyle with their peers - I don't expect Warren Buffet to live the same way as a Tibetan monk.
But I do find it interesting how President Bush personally walks the walk on the environment while so many wealthy people who are much louder on the topic don't seem to.
You could see in the comments on treehugger.com they did not want to praise President Bush but they could not help admiring him in this issue.
I didn't want you to think I was ignoring your post - but I really don't get your point in this last post.
I thought I responded to your points -you seemed to be saying that you don't think we called to explore and learn about the world - and that was why you objected to astronomy and the reference to the suns future as a red giant. If I misunderstood, I apologize.
the NYT must protect Hilly, they wouldn't want Al getting to popular and full of ideas.
"Does this guy look like a faggot, or what?"
Yup, looks like most of the rest of the Faggo-Craps.
Oh, the poor children.
ping
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