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Muslim man (allegedly) beats wife, young children; threatens to kill wife; she seeks help from DHS, ends up converting to Christianity and getting help from local church; then this obviously deeply religious Muslim (by the bye, it's ok Quranically to abuse your wife and kids) is offended that our laws would seek to protect his chattel; so the Mass Media spin is that Pastor Hancock is conspiring to keep the abusers children from growing up Muslim. Their insanity and coddling of Islam continues...
1 posted on 03/11/2007 12:14:15 AM PST by ColdWarNavyVet_dirsup
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To: ColdWarNavyVet_dirsup
By: Khalil AlHajal
2 posted on 03/11/2007 12:20:44 AM PST by EBH (May God Save Our Country)
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To: ColdWarNavyVet_dirsup

Yeah, because Christians never beat their wives or children... ;)


3 posted on 03/11/2007 12:21:01 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (Anti-socialist Bostonian, Anti-Illegal Immigration Bush supporter, Pro-Life Atheist)
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To: ColdWarNavyVet_dirsup

Reading this reminded me of a case where the Muslim father stabbed his daughter to death (honor killing) while the Mother held her down... all because the daughter had started dating. The whole thing was caught on tape because the FBI had tapped the phoneline when they suspected the father of illegal activities. But for that tape, the parents would have gotten away with murder.


4 posted on 03/11/2007 12:34:59 AM PST by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: ColdWarNavyVet_dirsup

Where does it say he beat her and the kids?


8 posted on 03/11/2007 1:22:23 AM PST by NucSubs (That's so gay.)
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Attorney Janet Frederick-Wilson, also of Parents for Children, said that the actions of government agents involved in the case were probably more motivated by money than by religious issues. The group claims that grants awarded to agencies and performance bonuses awarded to Children's Protection agents cause them to "twist facts and blow situations out of proportion."

"They target minorities because they often have the least resources to fight them with… and they take advantage of cases with divorce issues and domestic discord."

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I do not condone the violence many Arab men heap on their property..err..wives but the article has some real troublesome words for anyone who believes in a strong family.

Under most states the do gooding legislators have turned the schools, doctors, nurses, teachers aides, police, fire and any one else who comes in contact with children into mandated reporters.

To have a child taken away does not necessarily constant overly harsh physical abuse.

They only have to be at what the state calls at risk.

All it takes is say a teachers aide notices a child crying and seeing anything resembling a mark or red spot on the child and a report is filed with Child Protective Services.

CPS can then question the children and if they want to be mean or frivolous can call the police to come and forcibly take the children out of the home and the parents can do nothing but watch as they go out the door.

I despise Kalifornias laws as it has taken any logical reasoning out of dealing with children and parents.

Most parents when the CPS comes do not know their rights under the current law.


Good parents unknowingly let the CPS worker come into the home and why not.

They think that their job as a parent has been a good one.

The child is questioned while playing on the floor with crayons or some other toy and is asked all kinds of leading questions as to how they are punished and the family relationship.

Any thing more than a pat on the butt or a timeout and the children are gone and it's court time for everyone.

My neighbors who are both respected professionals went through this mess and nearly lost their children because they were both spanked on the butt with a ruler.

The two kids ages 7 and 8 got into a hitting fight one morning before school.

The teachers aide saw that the youngest child was crying and had a red spot on his face where the older sister had hit him.

The teachers aide then asked the child why he was crying.

The child did not answer and the aide then said did your father hit you in the face with his fist.

The child still upset would not answer but was clinching his fist.

The aide then called Child Protective Service and filed a report claiming the father had hit the child with his fist.

The CPS came to the house and while investigating the report determined that in the past year the father and mother had spanked the children twice using a 12 inch ruler.

The CPS worker walked out side for a few minutes and then came back into the house and accused the parents of abusing their children because under Kalifornia laws you can only spank the child on the butt using the hand.

Within a few minutes a patrol car pulled into the drive way and 10 minutes later the children were gone.

It took my neighbors nearly two weeks to get the children returned and several thousand dollars in four court appearances.

The younger child is now seeing a Psychiatrist and taking medicine for the trauma received by being forced away from his parents.

The behavior of both children in school has deteriorated since being taken from the home.

The parents saw an attorney to file a civil lawsuit but are still undecided as the law is on the side of who ever makes the report and the CPS.

I do not trust the CPS as they strong arm a lot of parent trying to rack up a quota of children taken out of the home.

There paycheck depends on splitting up families.

Just my lowly Red State Wannabe Opinion.
9 posted on 03/11/2007 1:28:31 AM PST by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, DUNCAN 08, ELECTION 2008, MOST IMPORTANT OF MY LIFE TIME)
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To: ColdWarNavyVet_dirsup

I didn't think that was the original title.

"Protesters support dad in fight against DHS"

Not saying your editorial comment was wrong. Just pointing out that the headline was changed.


23 posted on 03/11/2007 4:27:49 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (Duncan Hunter 2008)
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Is that not part of his religion to beat and if he thinks it necessary to kill his children and wife? And who are the idiots that are supporting him are they also wife beaters and child molesters?

If he beat his wife why is he not in jail?

This stinks, but since he is a Muslim what do you think will happen? Me thinks nothing.
28 posted on 03/11/2007 5:11:10 AM PDT by YOUGOTIT (56 Supporters of al Qaeda are seated in the US Senate)
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To: ColdWarNavyVet_dirsup

I wonder how many death threats the youth minister has received.


29 posted on 03/11/2007 5:12:51 AM PDT by EmilyGeiger
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To: ColdWarNavyVet_dirsup

After this incident, the answer to the incriminatory question "Have you stopped beating your wife?" will be "How dare you question my religious beliefs?".


31 posted on 03/11/2007 5:15:23 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (DemocraticUnderground.com is an internet hate site.)
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To: ColdWarNavyVet_dirsup

Changing article headlines is forbidden.


32 posted on 03/11/2007 5:18:17 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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Ben-Abbad and others have also distributed flyers "warning" local Muslims about the involved church, the Dearborn Assembly of God, accusing its lead pastor, Trey Hancock, of engaging in manipulative, overzealous, youth-targeted missionary tactics.

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Warning? Really?

So..what's the warning? Go near that Christian Church and have your head cut off?
35 posted on 03/11/2007 6:03:07 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid!)
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To: ColdWarNavyVet_dirsup

Note the weak-minded always available to aid Evil showing up to run their mouths.


43 posted on 03/12/2007 9:58:31 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Defeat Hillary's V'assed Left Wing Conspiracy)
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To: ColdWarNavyVet_dirsup

what parents for children is doing is nothing more than a huge joke on the poor man that hired them. they claim to be for the children when in fact they are for finding desperate people in michigan so that the atty wife can consume non returnable retainers from them. This atty has been admonished many times by the atb and has had a suspension of her license. anyone who would like to see the truth behind these publicity stunts only needs to read this.
http://outlaw-wolf.efx2.com/
it's not only the state getting greedy here.


52 posted on 03/20/2007 10:20:04 PM PDT by shecky
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