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Why Rudy Giuliani Really Shouldn’t be President
Special Guests Blog ^ | Marach 8.2007 | Jim Sleeper

Posted on 03/10/2007 9:24:06 PM PST by Angel

The deluge of commentary on Rudolph Giuliani’s presidential prospects has forced me finally to break my long silence about the man. Somebody’s gotta say it: He shouldn’t be president, not because he’s too “liberal” or “conservative,” or because his positions on social issues have been heterodox, or because he seems tone-deaf on race, or because his family life has been messy, or because he’s sometimes been as crass an opportunist as almost every other politician of note. Rudy Giuliani shouldn’t be president for reasons more profoundly troubling. Maybe you had to be with him at the start of his electoral career to see them clearly.

Throughout the fall, 1993 New York mayoral campaigns, I tried harder than any other columnist I know of to convince left-liberal friends and everyone else that Giuliani would win and probably should.

In the Daily News, the New Republic, and on cable and network TV, I insisted it had come to this because racial “Rainbow” and welfare-state politics were imploding nationwide, not just in New York and not only thanks to racists, Ronald Reagan, or robber barons. One didn’t have to share all of Giuliani’s “colorblind,” “law-and-order,” and free-market presumptions to want big shifts in liberal Democratic paradigms and to see that some of those shifts would require a political battering ram, not a scalpel.

I spent a lot of time with Giuliani during the 1993 campaign and his first year in City Hall, and while a dozen of my columns criticized him sharply for presuming far too much, I defended most of his record to the end of his tenure. He forced New York, that great capital of “root cause” explanations for every social problem, to get real about remedies that work, at least for now, in the world as we know it. I saw Al Sharpton blink as I told him in a debate that twice as many New Yorkers had been felled by police bullets during David Dinkins’ four-year mayoralty as during Giuliani’s then-seven years and that the drop in all murders meant that at least two thousand black and Hispanic New Yorkers who’d have been dead were up and walking around.

Giuliani’s successes ranged well beyond crime reduction. As late as July, 2001, when his personal and political blunders had eclipsed those gains and he had only a lame duck’s six months to go, I insisted in a New York Observer column that he’d facilitated housing, entrepreneurial, and employment gains for people whose loudest-mouthed advocates called him a racist reactionary. James Chapin, the late democratic socialist savant, considered Giuliani a “progressive conservative” like Teddy Roosevelt, who was a New York police commissioner before becoming Vice President and President.

Yet Giuliani’s methods and motives suggest he couldn’t carry his skills and experience to the White House without damaging this country. Two problems run deeper than the current likely “horse race” liabilities, such as his social views and family history.

The first serious problem is structural and political: A man who fought the inherent limits of his mayoral office as fanatically as Giuliani would construe presidential prerogatives so broadly he’d make George Bush’s notions of “unitary” executive power seem soft.

Even in the 1980s, as an assistant attorney general in the Reagan Justice Department and U.S. Attorney in New York, Giuliani was imperious and overreaching. He "perp-walked" Wall Streeters right out of their offices in dramatic prosecutions that failed. He made the troubled daughter of a state judge, Hortense Gabel, testify against her mother and former Miss America Bess Meyerson in a failed prosecution charging, among other things, that Meyerson had hired the judge’s daughter to bribe her into helping “expedite” a messy divorce case. The jury was so put off by Giuliani’s tactics that it acquitted all concerned, as the Washington Post recalled ten years later in assessing Special Prosecutor Kenneth Starr’s subpoena of Monica Lewinsky’s mother to testify against her daughter.

At least, as U.S. Attorney, Giuliani served at the pleasure of the President and had to defer to federal judges. Were he the President, U.S. Attorneys would serve at his pleasure -- a dangerous arrangement in the wrong hands, we’ve learned -- and he’d pick the judges to whom prosecutors defer.

As mayor, Giuliani fielded his closest aides like a fast and sometimes brutal hockey team, micro-managing and bludgeoning city agencies and even agencies that weren’t his, like the Metropolitan Transportation Authority and Board of Education. They deserved it richly enough to make his bravado thrilling to many of us, but it wasn’t very productive. And while this Savonarola disdained even would-be allies in other branches of government, he wasn’t above cutting indefensible deals with crony contractors and pandering shamelessly to some Hispanics, orthodox Jews, and other favored constituencies.

Even the credit he claimed for transportation, housing and safety improvements belongs partly and sometimes wholly to predecessors’ decisions and to economic good luck: As he left office the New York Times noted that on his first day as mayor in 1994, the Dow Jones had stood at 3754.09, while on his last day, Dec. 31, 2001, it opened at 10,136.99: “For most of his tenure, the city’s treasury gushed with revenues generated by Wall Street.” Dinkins had had to struggle through the after-effects the huge crash of 1987.

Remarkable though Giuliani’s mayoral record remains, it’s complicated further by more than socio-economic circumstances and structural constraints. Ironically, it was his most heroic moments as mayor that spotlighted his deepest presidential liability. Fred Siegel, author of the Giuliani-touting Prince of the City, posed the problem recently when he wondered why, after Giuliani’s 1997 mayoral reelection, with the city buoyed by its new safety and economic success, he wasn’t “able to turn his Churchillian political personality down a few notches."

I’ll tell you why: Giuliani’s 9/11 performance was sublime for the unnerving reason that he’d been rehearsing for it all his adult life and remained trapped in that stage role. When his oldest friend and deputy mayor Peter Powers told me in 1994 that 16-year-old Rudy had started an opera club at Bishop Loughlin High School in Brooklyn, I didn’t have to connect too many of the dots I’d been seeing to begin noticing that Giuliani at times acted like an opera fanatic who’s living in a libretto as much as in the real world.

In private, Rudy can contemplate the human comedy with a Machiavellian prince’s supple wit. But when he walks on stage, he tenses up so much that even his efforts to lighten up seem labored. What drove him as mayor was a zealot’s graceless division of everyone into friend or foe and his snarling, sometimes histrionic, vilifications of the foes. Those are operatic emotions, beneath the civic dignity of a great city and its chief magistrate.

Of course, I know more than a few New Yorkers who deserve the Rudy treatment, but only on 9/11 did the city really become as operatic as the inside of Rudy’s mind. For once, New York re-arranged itself into a stage fit for, say, Rossini’s “Le Siege de Corinth” or some dark, nationalist epic by Verdi or Puccini that ends with bodies strewn all over and the tragic but noble hero grieving for his devastated people and, perhaps, foretelling a new dawn.

Giuliani called the Metropolitan Opera only a few days after 9/11 and insisted its performances resume. At the first of these, the orchestra, striking up a few well-known chords, brought the entire cast, Met administrative, secretarial, and custodial staff (who'd come up onstage), and the capacity audience to their feet to sing “The Star Spangled Banner” with unprecedented passion. A few days later Giuliani proposed that his term be extended on an “emergency” basis beyond its lawful end on January 1, 2002. (It wasn’t, and the city did as well as it could have, anyway.)

Should this country suffer another devastating attack before the 2008 primaries are over, Giuliani’s presidential prospects may soar beyond recalling. But the very Constitutional notion of recall could soar away with them. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day, and Giuliani was right for his time and on a stage with built-in limits. But we shouldn’t have to make him the next President to learn why even a grateful Britain dumped Churchill in its first major election after V-E day.


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: elagabalus; electionpresident; elections; giuliani; kingrudy; rino; rudy; rutards
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To: Angel
Oy veh.

Giuliani should not be President because he is an anti-Second Amendment, pro-Abortion menace who was also a draft-dodging no-goodnik.

61 posted on 03/10/2007 11:26:09 PM PST by Siobhan (Telling my beads ...)
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To: upsdriver
I must have a weird sense of humor because it sure doesn't click with alot of folks!

That's one reason why you should let people know your joking.

How?

Well you can use something like this at the end of your comment.

[sarcasm]

or

[grin]

or anything else along those lines.

62 posted on 03/10/2007 11:27:57 PM PST by Doofer
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To: Mojave; Darkwolf377
I don't oppose ANYONE's run for the nomination.

Hello Hillary!

On second thought I don't oppose ANYONE's run,,,,,,except for The Hildabeast.

63 posted on 03/10/2007 11:29:48 PM PST by TYVets (God so loved the world he didn't send a committee)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
You seem to agree with the Left. They say Giuliani is a budding fascist.

This is a pathetic defense. The left hates everyone to the right of them, no matter how small the substantive differences really are.

He is no fascist.

The hell he's not. Virtually all of his policies reflect the kind of state control specifically exerted by Italian fascists in the 1930s, and were sold with similar justification, principally public safety and order.

Ronald Reagan believed in people possessing the ability to defend themselves. Giuliani wants the police to have that exclusive power while disarming the citizenry, nor is he shy about trampling the Constitution to get there. The two are miles apart.

64 posted on 03/10/2007 11:33:57 PM PST by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Schwarzenkaiser: Debtor's fascism for Kaleefornia, one charade at a time.)
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To: TYVets

The Giuliani described in this article is Hillary. If the writer were leftist, I would accuse him of projection.


65 posted on 03/10/2007 11:36:52 PM PST by AZLiberty (I'm selling Nonsense Offset Credits. If you're over your limit, contact me.)
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To: Angel

The more I hear, the more I like.


66 posted on 03/10/2007 11:39:00 PM PST by A6M3
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To: Angel

"Giuliani at times acted like an opera fanatic"


well, that explains the cross-dressing....
Actually , Jim Sleeper is one of the most astute observers and commentators on NYC Politics, regardless of whether he wrote for the Daily News and Newsday.(those were both pretty different newspapers then) I am no great fan of the over-reaching, and indeed operatic Giuliani either, and all reading this would be well-rewarded to Google Jim Sleeper and read some of his political essays.


67 posted on 03/10/2007 11:41:35 PM PST by supremedoctrine
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To: Free ThinkerNY
You seem to agree with the Left. They say Giuliani is a budding fascist.

N.A.R.A.L. had Rudy as their speaker at their "Champions of Choice" Lunch. They love him.

68 posted on 03/10/2007 11:42:54 PM PST by Mojave
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To: Mojave
Why would I oppose her running for a nomination? Doesn't mean I SUPPORT her, or would vote for her. If anything I want her to become the face of the democrat party even more than it is, so people will come out and discuss why she's such a bad thing for America.

I just don't get being against someone running.

69 posted on 03/11/2007 12:04:27 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (Anti-socialist Bostonian, Anti-Illegal Immigration Bush supporter, Pro-Life Atheist)
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To: joseph20

I thought so too. This piece reminds me of momma trying to convince her children to eat their beans, by telling them not to.


70 posted on 03/11/2007 12:15:30 AM PST by Luke21
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To: jess35

"Do you really believe the outcome is the same if you have Hillary or Giuliani as President?"

No, I think Rudy would make a better choice than Hillary. That's about as excited as I can get about Rudy.


71 posted on 03/11/2007 12:16:26 AM PST by jim35 ("...when the lion and the lamb lie down together, ...we'd better damn sure be the lion")
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To: ZULU
"If ONE MAN is the only person who can beat her, and a flawed man as this one is... "
Well, her spouse can beat her, too, but that would be listed as family violence.
72 posted on 03/11/2007 12:21:52 AM PST by GSlob
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To: Angel

I want to know why Rudy Really Shouldn’t be President as opposed to Rudy shouldn't be President.


73 posted on 03/11/2007 12:22:54 AM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

You should have recognized that particular statement as the joke that it was, right away. Anyone who knows anything about Rush knows that he's always joking about exactly that sort of comment, which only a liberal would take seriously. I can't believe you actually called him on that.


74 posted on 03/11/2007 12:23:42 AM PST by jim35 ("...when the lion and the lamb lie down together, ...we'd better damn sure be the lion")
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To: Angel

What do we think? I'd say he's voting for Hillary Clinton for President.


75 posted on 03/11/2007 12:37:17 AM PST by Gracey (Rudy/Rice..... 2008 vs Hitlary/Osama Obama)
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To: Angel

What do we think? I'd say he's voting for Hillary Clinton for President.


76 posted on 03/11/2007 12:37:18 AM PST by Gracey (Rudy/Rice..... 2008 vs Hitlary/Osama Obama)
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To: everyone

He's too liberal and don't forget he was AGAINST Clinton's impeachment..At this point, Romney seems to be the best candidate..


77 posted on 03/11/2007 1:12:49 AM PST by BlueZeus
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To: nopardons
He spend the beginning praising Rudy, yet calls him a "racist"
I read the article differently. I didn't see him associate himself with calling Rudy racist, indeed he claims to have himself shut up Al Sharpton in a debate.

What he says is that Rudy has a strong authoritarian streak, as exemplified by some of the court cases he brought as a prosecutor - and lost. I well remember Guliani "perp walking" some Wall Street types - and then failing to convict them. I'm sorry, that's the kind of behavior you'd expect of Hillary, not something you want to work for. Add in gun control and what you have is an arrogant streak in the man which is all too typical of liberals.

All in all, Rudy is just too strong a medicine for the presidency. You wouldn't want Rudy on the Supreme Court, but you advocate putting him in a position to nominate justices to SCotUS.


78 posted on 03/11/2007 3:10:31 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: Angel
"Should this country suffer another devastating attack before the 2008 primaries are over, Giuliani’s presidential prospects may soar beyond recalling."

LOL! Yeah...right! [Not] ...a general, an historian, or maybe even one conservative man (which Giuliani is not) who is willing to appoint good generals and let them do their work. But a lawyer and former mayor...? No way!
79 posted on 03/11/2007 3:27:04 AM PDT by familyop ("G-d is on our side because he hates the Yanks." --St. Tuco, in the "Good, the Bad, and the Ugly")
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To: Angel
Why Rudy Giuliani Really Shouldn’t be President


80 posted on 03/11/2007 5:24:04 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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