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US working on satellite defenses in the shadow of a Chinese test
AFP ^ | 03/10/07 | Jim Mannion

Posted on 03/10/2007 4:16:26 PM PST by nypokerface

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1 posted on 03/10/2007 4:16:27 PM PST by nypokerface
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I'd like a satellite laser (chemical or nuke-powered) against any counter-anti-sat-missile or laser-base. Simple self-defense.


2 posted on 03/10/2007 4:21:22 PM PST by bvw
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pflr


3 posted on 03/10/2007 4:31:39 PM PST by crghill
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To: bvw

{The Pentagon's virtual silence about the Chinese test "...is hard for me to understand except to conclude they already felt they had already dealt with this problem some time ago," he said.}

The silence could also be because China increasingly has the USA by the balls through increased dependence on China to maintain the US economy. The transfer of all the manufacturing and technology for rare-earth magnets to China which all of the modern PGM and navigation systems rely upon (including the systems the advanced nano-satellites etc...would need) puts them in an increasingly more powerful position.


4 posted on 03/10/2007 4:36:37 PM PST by neutronsgalore (Nature, getting rid of Muslims one tsunami at a time.)
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To: neutronsgalore

Like your name. The US still has more innovative power in our seriously weakened bastard pinky then pretty-boy brat-land (that is, China two Jeffersonian generations after single boy-baby and kill the girl-baby policy started).


5 posted on 03/10/2007 4:41:20 PM PST by bvw
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To: bvw

The comparative "th*n" is THAN.


6 posted on 03/10/2007 4:42:28 PM PST by bvw
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To: bvw

"Like your name. The US still has more innovative power in our seriously weakened bastard pinky then pretty-boy brat-land (that is, China two Jeffersonian generations after single boy-baby and kill the girl-baby policy started)."

I agree...if it's willing to go first-use of nuclear weapons in a conventional conflict. Sadly, such balls is extremely lacking these days. And with every passing year of increased dependency those balls will continue to shrink until a day comes where the White House, whether Dem or GOP, will hang Taiwan out to dry.


7 posted on 03/10/2007 4:47:11 PM PST by neutronsgalore (Nature, getting rid of Muslims one tsunami at a time.)
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To: Pukin Dog

Why, it's almost like the US military knows what it's doing. :)


8 posted on 03/10/2007 4:50:24 PM PST by denydenydeny ("We have always been, we are, and I hope that we always shall be detested in France"--Wellington)
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This is bullsh t. I know people in the AF and that test caught many people flat footed. They even put many installation on alert shortly after the test and delayed a rocket launch. The dust from that test blocked a large portion of our Sat's for weeks. I hope this is true but I have my doubts.
9 posted on 03/10/2007 5:04:31 PM PST by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: neutronsgalore
because China increasingly has the USA by the balls through increased dependence on China to maintain the US economy.

I would rather not assist in the thread hijack and help turn this into yet another isn't-the-trade-deficit-awful thread, but: Nonsense. If anything, the USA has China by the balls. If trade ended between the two countries, tomorrow, who gets hurt more?

I think we would have just a tad easier time looking for a source of thousands of containers of crap that we currently buy from China than China would have of finding another $250 billion market for their crap.

10 posted on 03/10/2007 5:06:56 PM PST by denydenydeny ("We have always been, we are, and I hope that we always shall be detested in France"--Wellington)
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"I would rather not assist in the thread hijack and help turn this into yet another isn't-the-trade-deficit-awful thread, but: Nonsense. If anything, the USA has China by the balls. If trade ended between the two countries, tomorrow, who gets hurt more?"

In the short-term yes, they would be harmed more if it were to happen tomorrow, and our own extensive economic damage would teach us a good lesson about the vulnerabilities of depending on foreign nations when it's unnecessary. But that's decreasing with every single year. In a couple decades, barring a trade policy reversal by the US, China will have developed the economic infrastructure that will enable it to start exploiting it's own population to maintain it's economy...in exactly the same way the consumer/service demands of the American people drove the overwhelming majority of the US economy through most of it's history and trade with other nations only a very small part.


11 posted on 03/10/2007 5:19:43 PM PST by neutronsgalore (Nature, getting rid of Muslims one tsunami at a time.)
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To: bvw
Plasma shields. And I'm not kidding - plasma held in a magnetic field around a satellite would render it invisible to radar.

Trek-Like 'Cold Plasmas' Shield, Cloak

Pretty nifty stuff.

12 posted on 03/10/2007 5:26:35 PM PST by FierceDraka (I am NOT a number, I am a FREE MAN!)
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To: bvw

"I'd like a satellite laser (chemical or nuke-powered) against any counter-anti-sat-missile or laser-base. Simple self-defense."

I'd also like to see how well microwave weapons would work. I could imagine a dual-use solar power satellite. In peace it would be beaming it's energy to receiving stations, in war it could be used for defense and offense.


13 posted on 03/10/2007 5:27:28 PM PST by neutronsgalore (Nature, getting rid of Muslims one tsunami at a time.)
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To: nypokerface

Too Ezzy !!! Drive-By with the shuttle,,,1 guy,,,1 hammer.

What they gunna do ??

(wavin' arms and jumpin' up-n-down)
"Stru`pid 'Meri'can Spr`ace Man,,,Yo`No'Do`Dat'!!!"...;0)


14 posted on 03/10/2007 5:45:14 PM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: FierceDraka

Any idea is good, building and testing better, and trail deployments even better. The worst is throwing up the hands and sighing.


15 posted on 03/10/2007 6:04:47 PM PST by bvw
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Yeah, and it's too bad that the space bureaucracy has become so bloated that the time between the drawing board and actual launch / deployment is now measured in decades.

If the culture at NASA had been the same when JFK delivered his moon landing speech as it is now, the first Apollo missions would have occurred sometime in the mid 1980's, if at all.

16 posted on 03/10/2007 6:24:32 PM PST by FierceDraka (I am NOT a number, I am a FREE MAN!)
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To: bvw

I don't think it is a big deal. China has to launch these from land and we aleady have them targeted since we already know where they are.

At the slightest thought that there would be a launch, these silos would vanish.


17 posted on 03/10/2007 6:53:42 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (The Clintons: A Malignant Malfeasance of the Most Morbid)
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To: nypokerface
US counter-measures are cloaked in secrecy and difficult to ascertain.

Note to AFP: No s**t Sherlock. That is what makes a secret programme a secret programme.
18 posted on 03/10/2007 7:46:42 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

"At the slightest thought that there would be a launch, these silos would vanish."

Assuming we'd know it's even coming. And it also depends on the launching requirements of the ASAT missile. If it can be mobile, the first sign that they're planning anything might be a couple weeks or more of our spy satellites being blinded by Chicom lasers every time they pass over their territory.


19 posted on 03/10/2007 9:32:03 PM PST by neutronsgalore (Nature, getting rid of Muslims one tsunami at a time.)
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To: FierceDraka

Bump! Thanks for the link.


20 posted on 03/11/2007 7:16:16 PM PDT by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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