[quidnunc]

Quote:

Conservatism comes in many flavors. None seems perfect for every conservative's palate; most should be satisfactory to most conservatives.

Just so!

[mnehring]

from another thread...Based on what I've read here over the years, this animal known as a 'Conservative' is a mythical creature, that, like the Yeti, changes with the description of each observer.. If we follow the many limitations and guidelines placed on what defines this creature, it's very existence defies the laws of physics.

[kjo]

Sorry, you are never gonna convince me that any of the above are good enough to shine RR's shoes.

[SJSAMPLE]

Except for the whole pro-gay, pro-abortion and anti-gun stances.

It's amazing how people are willing to overlook those things in favor of "electability".

Just say no to RINOs in 2008.

[MNJohnnie]

Conservatism comes in many flavors. None seems perfect for every conservative's palate; most should be satisfactory to most conservatives.

From the very G Wills who spends a great deal of time whining about Bush not being a "Conservative". This is about who is, or isn't in the DC Political Establishment's graces, not about Conservativism.

[ElkGroveDan]

Where is the outrage from these people? They should be embarrassed and infuriated that this woman is part of the public face of their faction."

Agreed, but liberal is not one of those flavors. When the flavor is liberal you no longer have a conservative - so Giuliani shouldn't even be mentioned in this discussion.

[angkor]

Half the people at CPAC (esp. those RudyBots) were LIBERALS!!!!! /sarc

[Antoninus]

Is this yet another posting of the same George Will column? Oy.

Help vanquish Rudy McRomney...



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[ElkGroveDan]

Conservatism comes in many flavors. None seems perfect for every conservative's palate; most should be satisfactory to most conservatives.

Agreed, but liberal is not one of those flavors. When the flavor is liberal you no longer have a conservative - so Giuliani shouldn't even be mentioned in this discussion.

[calcowgirl]

Third time's a charm?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1797394/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1797448/posts

[Carry_Okie]

See tag line.

[hosepipe]

IF there were a Right Wing in the United States it would avocating the HANGING of George Will as a RINO....

Have not heard that ..... YET...

[Vn_survivor_67-68]

".....unwittingly but substantially advanced an idea central to the campaign for same-sex marriages — the minimalist understanding of marriage as merely a contract between consenting adults to be entered into or dissolved as it suits their happines...."

False!

Marriage was universally thought of as between a Man and a Woman back when RR was Governor of California, not "consenting adults".

[Issaquahking]

Only candidate who is running in the spirit of Ronald Reagan is Duncan Hunter...


Comments from an interview -

John Hawkins: Ok, along similar lines, I'm going to bring up a name or organization. You just give me a quick reaction.

Duncan Hunter: If you're running for this office, you shouldn't be the proponent of quick reaction.

John Hawkins: I understand. I'm just trying to get a lot of stuff out there about you, you know, so people can get a good feel about your positions on a lot of issues.

John Hawkins: Ronald Reagan.

Duncan Hunter: Peace through strength, my soul mate and the guy that I ran with in 1980 and whose views I still strongly support. No other candidate is even in his league, running as a conservative.

A good ticket would be Hunter/Gingrich!

[yoe]

It is still too early - However, Giuliani is strong on law and that takes in the felons who are here illegally; feels Roe v Wade is an imperfect law and would like to see something written better; would not impose NY gun law across the country; he is strong on the Constitution; would most likely ask public education to produce a better product and see to it teachers are taught to teach; there is much to like about him. I will be interested to see if Newt will enter the race and I like Mitt. Cheney could retire do to health concerns leaving the space for Condi Rice a likely and good choice.

Those with single issue wishes will hurt the rest of the GOP. There will never be another RR so get over it and try to pick someone who can win and kick the Clinton's out for good.

Get after Harry Reid and his ridiculous Murthaspeak about the WOT and Iraq - this silly inarticulate public servant is about to get us all killed by creating the weakest America in history. Freep his office!

[SaxxonWoods]

From George Will, about someone you remember:


"Suppose someone seeking the presidential nomination had, as a governor, signed the largest tax increase in his state's history and the nation's most permissive abortion law. And by signing a law institutionalizing no-fault divorce, he had unwittingly but substantially advanced an idea central to the campaign for same-sex marriages -- the minimalist understanding of marriage as merely a contract between consenting adults to be entered into or dissolved as it suits their happiness.

Question: Is it not likely that such a presidential aspirant would be derided by some of today's fastidious conservatives? A sobering thought, that, because the attributes just described were those of Ronald Reagan."

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The above is not an endorsement of any candidate by SaxxonWoods. SaxxonWoods was leaning Duncan Hunter, but is currently undecided.

[Triple]

Who says those are the too candidates ?W

[longtermmemmory]

In other words,

a left wing newspaper wants us to select a left wing candidate in order to SHOVE the republican party left of center.

Left of center judges.
Left of center immigration.
Left of center gun control laws.
Left of center prosecutorial conduct.


no thank you.

[Repeal The 17th]

Compromise is what politics is about.
You can dislike that statement, and say,
"it ought not be that way"
but none the less, the statement remains true.
It is necessary to compromise on WHO YOU want and
who has the best chance of bringing in 51% of the electoral vote.
OR ...
just be prepared to live under a democrat presidency while you sit smugly
and self-satisfied that YOU would not sacrifice YOUR principles.
Face it, NOBODY who thinks and feels and believes EXACTLY like you do is going to win.
So what do you do?
Do you stay home and not vote?
Do you cast your vote as a "protest" or on "principal" for some candidate
who can not possible win but they most closely reflect your interest?
OR
Do you vote for the candidate who has the best chance of defeating the greater evil?
Lke it or not, that is the way the game of politics is played.
Maybe it ought not be that way,
but the truth is,
that's the way it is.
For me, I realize that neither Barry Golwater nor Ronald Reagan are going to get resurrected to run in 2008.
My preference would be to see Newt in there, but he is such a lightning rod, I question his electability.
I think Rudy is "not TOO bad" and I think he he is VERY electable.
So, for right now, he is 'da man.

[nctexan]

I'm committing right now... This is the candidate that will "stand up" for you...

[mtntop3]

Thee was more pragmatism in Ronald Reagan than many conservatives obviously realize today. Yes, he was principled - but he was never suicidal. He was never a screeching ideologue.

He knew that to bring about conservatism's goals, it is necessary to be in a position of power. And that any elected official cannot represent only one segment of the society.

Reagan had two traits which were far above political dogma: religious Faith and optimism based on reality. (how many people here share those??)