Posted on 03/08/2007 9:04:04 AM PST by presidio9
So he listed things from when he was a governor that put Reagan in a positive light with conservatives or negative?
Its a familiar tactic by those pushing Rudy. Attack....ooops, I mean .....bring out all the negative "facts" about Reagan in order to make Rudy look better.
You are welcome, sitetest. :-)
Cheers,
sl
Perhaps not federal questions, per se, but most definitely a concern to us in that we do NOT want federal government infringing, usurping or abusing in these areas.
Conserving (defending) individual rights, states rights, limited government, etc, most definitely are issues that we conservatives worry about.
My idea of "Traditional American" Conservatism:
Pro God, country, family, life and liberty.
Strong national security, national defense, national sovereignty.
Limited (constitutional) government, spending, taxes.
Individual rights and state's rights.
(All of the above per the U.S. Constitution as originally intended).
Hi, there:
Absolutely agreed, yes. Across the board.
Sorry, he was coming up with a list of issues that we could rank candidates on some kind of C >>> L scale, and see how they came out in the long run. I thought it was a brilliant idea. We started with your list, and I was trying to pare it down to issues I thought were relevant to R candidates. That's what I *mean* to type, anyway!
For President? I guess you didn't see my tagline! Where are you in Arizona?
I'm not. Albany.
TOTALLY misunderstood your post! Who do you support??? I'm sorry, but have we talked before? Did you know that I went to College at SUNY Albany, graduating in 1982?
>Sorry, I like Duncan but I don't see him as Presidential material.<
Well, he has a fine record on which to stand, which none of the others can say. Not sexy enough, huh? If everyone felt like you do, poooooor America. :o(
Judiciary: Like the liberal judges he appointed in New York
Private Property: Like Rent Control which he supports
Yes we have God given rights, and they include life, liberty and property as are embedded in our Constitution and the Preamble thereto. Even life not yet born is human.
I agree entirely, and in fact I'd happily vote for a pro-abortion Prez candidate who believably promised to appoint anti-Roe judges (and was acceptable on other issues, of course). I'm just unaware of any such animal.
As soon as a satisfactory front-runner is found, perhaps Mr. Will might let us know. Because I have yet to find one.
Is Mr. Will really prepared to use his precious time on this earth to get behind a candidate that is destined to disappoint him time and again? A candidate that will seek to resolve few, if any, of the incredibly serious issues that threaten this republic?
I'm not holding out for Secretariat, but life is too short to saddle up on a "nag" and hope for the best.
Probably, accept Reagan had a rhetorical record of conservatism after his years as Governor, with specific statements and promises to boot.
Thank you!!
George Will and others, several here, cannot seem to fathom that we have the right to oppose candidates 'till we turn blue, or they are dropped, or they win over a majority of those at the Republican convention and get the nomination.
You're damn right that neither rudy or creepy john are conservative enough - neither is GWB and neither is Arnold (but I voted for them). I'll oppose either nomination in favor of just about anyone NOT of their sort (yes, even Newt).
That's how the process works, voters make their voices heard, delegates carry those messages with them to the convention, and...well, then its up for grabs.
But registered republicans (the 'little folk') can, and need to, have their voices heard prior to all the confetti and phony straw hats being paraded around whichever arena is used for the convention.
THEN, after 'the party' selects next election's poster person; we'll either swallow our pride and vote "R", or we'll do another 2006 and elect a democrat, or we'll split the difference and write in the guy who 'should have been the candidate'.
Just please stop telling me that I have to accept a race between two social liberals, two non conservatives, two people made famous by happenstance, and two people loved more dearly by democrats than by conservative Republicans. There are too many others in the party that I'd really like to hear from.
He ran NYC tho. He *had* to appoint judges acceptable to his constituents.
And NYC is hardly known as a land of crazy judicial decisions, so it looks like that turned out all right, and he did a decent job there.
And rent controls were around long before him, and will still be around long after him. Weren't his idea, and if he breathed a word against them he wouldn't have been elected.
Somehow, I doubt he'll apply anything like rent controls to the country at large.
So that doesn't seem like much of a negative, either.
I'd prefer Newt. But realistically, I'm prepared for Rudy as one possible nominee.
On that list, he's conservative in many areas. So he's no flaming liberal, to my eyes. We could do much worse.
I thought Rudy had promised "originalist" judges . . .
He does seem like the kind of guy who would keep his word.
I've seen this article before, and I chose not to engage in the mudslinging on this same article on other threads.
As a Duncan Hunter supporter I am choosing not to engage in debate on this Rudy Giuliani thread on Free Republic. As a freeper I am disappointed that there are fans of a liberal presidential candidate trying to push socially liberal views on this socially conservative forum. In particular, I have noticed that the Rudy G fans do not answer posts questioning the qualitative substance of their candidate, or the posts are met merely with insults.
Duncan Hunter's campaign website
http://www.gohunter08.com/
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Video of Rudy Giuliani in his own words
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM
Transcript of video below.
Will the real Rudy show up at CPAC?
Culture of life:
ABC clip:
George Will: "Do you think Roe v Wade was good constitutional law?"
Rudy Giuliani: "Yes I believe, I believe it is."
Cnn Clip December 2, 1999:
Announcer: "Giuliani was then asked whether he supports a ban on what critics call partial birth abortions, something Bush strongly supports."
Rudy Giuliani : "No, I have not supported that, and I don't see my position on that changing."
Immigration
CNN clip:
Announcer: "Back in 1996, mayor Giuliani went to federal court to challenge new federal laws requiring the city to inform the federal government about illegal immigrants."
Rudy Giuliani: "There isn't a mayor or a public official in this country that's more strongly pro immigrant than I am. Including disagreeing with President Clinton when he signed an anti-immigration legislation about two or three years ago."
Gun control:
CNN clip
Rudy Giuliani: "I'm in favor of gun control"
Meet The Press:
Tim Russert: "How about registration of all handguns?"
Rudy Giuliani: "You know I'm in favor of that. I've been on your show many times."
Gay Rights:
CNN Clip:
Announcer: "As mayor he supported civil unions, and extending health and other benefits to gay couples."
ABC Clip: "I supported domestic partnership legislation and signed it"
Meet The Press:
Tim Russert: "So should gay people be openly allowed to serve?"
Rudy Giuliani: "I think people should be judged on the merits. And there should not be a specific focus on someone's sexual orientation."
First Amendment:
ABC Clip
Cokie Roberts: "Would you vote in the senate in favor of Mccain / Feingold?"
Rudy Giuliani: "Yes, I'm a big supporter of Mccain / Feingold. I have been for a long time."
Party Loyalty:
ABC Clip:
Rudy Giuliani: "Frankly George, I'd like to run on all the lines. I'd like to run on the liberal line, the conservative line, I'd like to run on the democratic line if I could figure out how to do it."
Conservative Values:
Meet The Press:
Tim Russert: "Whether it's gays in the military, gun control, campaign finance, late term abortion - you and Hillary Clinton are in sync on those issues."
Rudy Giuliani: "Well then maybe the other side should stop the 'He's part of the vast right wing conspiracy'."
Welcome To CPAC, Rudy!
End clip.
Yup: "RINO Bush" was elected instead of algore or sKerry.
If either of those had been president for some of the last 6 years you think you'd like that different history?
If so, you're a socialist, not a purist, or "gullible".
I'm not crazy about all that has happened during the last six years, and did not support Bush in the 2000 primaries (any more than I would support Rudy in the primaries) - however, the last six years could have been MUCH worse than they have been - no matter WHAT honest comparisons, figures, or statistics you might cite.
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