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Why can't you celebrate and invasion?
1 posted on 03/08/2007 5:24:54 AM PST by SJackson
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I'm sorry, but a few wandering tribes did not have a right to monopolize an entire continent, most of which was unused.


2 posted on 03/08/2007 5:29:22 AM PST by dinoparty
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This is what a couple decades of political correctness has wrought. PC tells us that all that is good, decent and enlightened in our history and traditions are not worth defending.

Europe is no long willing to defend its civilization. We are not far behind.


3 posted on 03/08/2007 5:30:39 AM PST by Jacquerie (US v. Libby, America's first Soviet style show trial.)
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An invasion? You mean like what Mexico is doing to us now?


4 posted on 03/08/2007 5:30:43 AM PST by Flavious_Maximus
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Just one more indication of just how far things have gone here in (what used to be) America!

We are all acutely afflicted with this plague called (whispered) Political Correctness!!!!! It runs the gamut from....whatever, to the audacity to use not-so-nice words in a cartoon--WTF!!!!!!!!!!


5 posted on 03/08/2007 5:31:56 AM PST by gunnyg
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Okay, quick, first person to name a modern nation state that was founded in its present state without colonization or warfare gets a cookie!

Mary Wade is, suffice it to say, completely incapable of dealing with history with an honest, objective lens and is woefully incapable of fulfilling the job she hopes to fufill.


7 posted on 03/08/2007 5:36:55 AM PST by CheyennePress
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This what Virginians get for electing two DemocRAT governors, Warner and Kaine. Silly Virginians, you have handed the Commonwealth to the left, and now they are destroying it.


9 posted on 03/08/2007 5:42:17 AM PST by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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Are the lunatics in control of the asylum? Jamestown should be celebrated and those opposed should fall on their sword to assuage their self inflicted guilt relating to their ancestors. With such weak mindedness, our nation is ripe for invasion.
13 posted on 03/08/2007 5:47:41 AM PST by MBB1984
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What is this bullcrap?

Does it mean we can't celebrate D-Day of June 6th, 1944?

Now that was an invasion!

14 posted on 03/08/2007 5:48:20 AM PST by albee (The best thing you can do for the poor is.....not be one of them. - Eric Hoffer)
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http://www.jamestown2007.org/about-commemoratiiongoals.cfm

The link above is to the commemoration goals. Too bad no one at WND daily has a dictionary handy.

commemorate: to celebrate the memory of, as with a ceremony.

15 posted on 03/08/2007 5:49:15 AM PST by dmz
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That article made a very good and important point on PC run amuk, but then the remaining 4/5s was virtually a sermon. Worldnet should leave that part to the religious blogs and focus on the immediate issue.


16 posted on 03/08/2007 5:49:15 AM PST by tlb
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Ms Wade, you're a descendant of really horrible people who did horrible things. I think you owe it to yourself, and all of us, if you would commit sepiku. I'm sure that you'll feel better about it in the morning.

Mark

17 posted on 03/08/2007 5:49:53 AM PST by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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Hell, We celebrate D-Day !!!! These people are out of control. It is TIME to cull the herd .


25 posted on 03/08/2007 6:00:55 AM PST by Renegade
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Shades of the hand-wringing we saw in 1992, which was the 500th year after Columbus' 1492 discovery.


26 posted on 03/08/2007 6:02:39 AM PST by ikka (The US Catholic Bishops' position on immigration is objectively anti-American.)
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It wasn't an invasion. It was a settlement. Yes, it is unfortunate that the partially hunter/gather, partially agricultural inhabitants were essentially pushed out over time by the newly established agricultural civilization, but Jamestown is a founding act of our society and is worth commemorating in a positive way, even if we can at the same time recall the unfortunate things that happened to the Indians. This unadulterated negativism is the typical self-loathing hatred of Liberals for their own Western civilization.


29 posted on 03/08/2007 6:11:50 AM PST by Unam Sanctam
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Poppycock.


30 posted on 03/08/2007 6:16:14 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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Yeh, why CAN't you celebrate an invasion? I'd go there if they were doing it right. But NO, they have to self-flagellate about it. GAG.


31 posted on 03/08/2007 6:30:15 AM PST by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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OK, I contacted them on their website and told them that I, for one, would NEVER come to their stupid Quadricentennial if all they were going to do was self-flaggelate. You can do the same.

THESE moronic liberals do not own our history. It is not theirs to remake. They need to hear from EVERY Freeper.


32 posted on 03/08/2007 6:37:10 AM PST by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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The Left has been scrubbing history for decades. They won't be happy until any memory of the Creator or those who have served Him, is gone from all records and all minds.


38 posted on 03/08/2007 6:53:57 AM PST by EternalVigilance (With "Republicans" like these, who needs Democrats?)
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Various tribes were constantly being displaced from territory and moving around, and there are cases in which entire tribes were by and large exterminated in the nearly-continual warfare of one tribe versus another.

Although prior to contact with the Europeans the Indians were illiterate and left no written records, much is known about their history of constant and savage warfare beginning with the writings of early European explorers such as Jacque Cartier in the first half of the 1500s, who described the wars then going on as well as oral traditions of what had gone on before.

Indian wars were shockingly brutal and bloody affiars, and there was little of what the British colonists would recognize as honor or decency involved. In Indian attacks such as in the French and Indian War and Pontiac's rebellion, atrocities that would be labeled as war crimes by any objective observer (were not the fact that Indians were the perpetrators) were the rule, not the exception, in the manner of Indian attacks. Modern psychologists, if told of the details of a typical Indian attack on settlers, but not the identity of the perpetrators, would no doubt conclude that the persons carrying it out must necessarily be demented psychopaths, because of the nature of the violence perpetrated.

As one writer described: "Typically, a group of five to twenty warriors would kill the husband while he labored in the fields, then rush the house. The family would be gathered together; the women were taken for slaves; old people were immediately tomahawked and scalped, as were infants, unless their mother could expeditiously carry them. If time permitted, teenagers, children, and women were raped or sodomized, the house plundered of all useful items, then burnt, along with the barn and other outbuildings. All of the livestock would be slaughtered. While the main body moved on to the next farm, a couple of warriors led the captives back to the Indian towns as quickly as possible. Anyone who delayed the march was immediately killed and scalped." Cruelty was the rule, not the exception, for the Indians.

Historians try to excuse or justify the violence against innocent people, on the grounds that the treaties entered into the by leaders of the Indians in which they surrendered various tracts of land were not good bargains for their side. Perhaps not in some cases, but nevertheless historians breezily dismiss the value of goods offered to the Indians as if they had no value. To a people who lived by hunting and had no manufacturing ability, the value of a musket or a high quality steel knife is enormous. What a vast improvement it was to the Indian to be able to hunt buffalo and deer using a firearm instead of a hand-made bow and arrow or a wooden spear. How much easier to skin an animal using a steel knife instead of a sharp rock. These types of items had enormous utility to the Indians, who placed great value on them, as well as on manufactured clothing.

The Indians were actually far fewer in number than most people commonly believe, and the biggest factor in their demise was disease, not casualties in their wars against the colonists. Just as much of Europe had been wiped out by plague, smallpox and other diseases in earlier centuries, so it happened to the Indians. It was inevitable that sooner or later the dwellers in North America would come into contact with people of other continents and be exposed to new diseases. This was not the "fault" of the settlers.

39 posted on 03/08/2007 6:59:40 AM PST by SirJohnBarleycorn
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This country was built by white men with guns get over it.


40 posted on 03/08/2007 7:01:47 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (So many geeks, so few circuses.)
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