Posted on 03/07/2007 12:31:41 PM PST by Ol' Sparky
Rudy Giuliani, Immigration Liberal
We've been keeping a close eye on all the recent talk about Rudy Giuliani's attempts to bring some level of conservative nuance to his essentially liberal social positions on abortion, gay rights and gun control as he pursues the Republican nomination.
But what about immigration?
Giuliani strongly supported a guest worker program supported by President Bush and said during a newly interesting appearance on Meet the Press the following: "There isn't a mayor or a public official in this country that's more strongly pro-immigrant than I am, including disagreeing with President Clinton when he signed an anti-immigration legislation about two or three years ago, which we got some amendments of to protect the rights of immigrants."
Those positions put Giuliani in stark opposition to even some of his more moderate Republican supporters.
As an informed reader reminded me, Tom Kean Jr., who ran for U.S. Senate in New Jersey last year and is now an honorary chairman of the Giuliani campaign in that state, was loudly opposed to the guest worker program.
And Barron Thomas, the former Bush "Pioneer" fund-raiser and a promoter of what he calls Giuliani's practical, non-ideological approach, recently told me that he opposes John McCain (his home-state Senator) because McCain is too soft on illegal immigration.
Maybe there are lots of Republicans like Kean and Thomas who will be willing to support Giuliani despite their clear differences on immigration. But it will be interesting to see how he deals with the issue when it's raised by people who are somewhat less inclined to compromise.
--Jason Horowitz
There have been at least three times the amount of people killed or murdered by INVADERS since 911.
Because they are killed by the ones or more at a time it does not dawn on sheeple that the invaders are doing it.
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I like my amnesty plan!
Please call them INVADERS and don't compare them to people who are legal aliens!
IF you aid and abet CRIMINALS, you are a criminal!
President Bush has been great on most things except for our border.
He has been great on the war on terrorists.
But on the border he is a gross failure.
He acted fast and correct on the 3,000+ people murdered at the world trade center.
He ignores the many rapes, murders and robberies which might be larger than the murders and money loss at the world trade center.
More Americans are abducted on the border of Mexico than in Iraq!
Start building the fence.
It should be made a felony for Criminals who overstay their visas and Invaders.
I believe we should give amnesty to these poor CRIMINALS or INVADERS.
This should be a 2 week amnesty to get the heck out of our Country.
The ones who ignore this amnesty should be buried in a tent city jail and fined $10,000 or buried elsewhere.
All aiders and abettors of these CRIMINALS or INVADERS should get 1 year in a tent city jail and a $10,000 fine for each CRIMINAL aided.
Those in government should be the first ones charged.
Those on FR who live in flyover country or the burbs in their nice homes away from the illegal masses can be for Rudy.
They arn't faced every day with the problem or see their tax money going out by the tens of millions of dollars on the illegals for health care, housing, food, education
and crime.
San Diego has over 1 million Mexicans, tens of thousands who are illegals.
We have Mexico at our southern border with not only Mexicans but Chinese, Middle Eastern, etc. coming across.
Those who support candidates who support this stuff, just remember, sooner or later it will be coming to your neighborhood.
California, Mexico's HMO
Too late now boys, big Ted's in charge, occupying the majority chair of the Senate Immigration Committee.
Don't think the rest of us aren't infected with it, too. We have numerous illegals show up here at the hospital in Memphis every day. And they're increasing in numbers by leaps and bounds, almost none of them paying so much as a dime. Some irritated that there is no one there at the moment who doesn't speak Spanish.
The immigration issue probably ranks highest on my list of priorities coming into this election. No issue could more sooner set up our country on a death spiral than this.
The right fix for this illegal immigration problem could also go a long way in making our healthcare system more soluble....
"Too late now boys, big Ted's in charge, occupying the majority chair of the Senate Immigration Committee."
Running fringe candidates like Tancredo and Hunter will only help continue that trend.
The GOP will only win by adding, not subtracting, supporters.
Everyone accepts that Tancredo and Hunter are running only so that they can drag the field to the right, in hopes of damaging whoever gets the nomination.
"Everyone accepts..."
Wrong.
Many hospitals have closed in California due to the illegal problem.
Hre in San Diego, they cross the border as soon as they are ready to have their kid, we taxpayers pay for it,
plus the kid is now an American citizen and pick up welfare, etc.
Not even the President's position is good enough--anything less than the fence and aggresive enforcement of immigration laws is not acceptable IMO...
Nothing short of imposing large fines against employers who hire illegals and aggressively enforcing this is going to solve the problem. I think this would work better than a wall, frankly.
It really is disturbing that Congress could, with a simple vote, declare millions upon millions citizens de facto and place them on the path to collect from the public dole.
Our immigration system is very broken now. I at least like the system that Romney has been proposing. He's talked of fine of employers and on top of that, better structuring the immigration system to bring in skilled workers.
We frankly do not need our borders flooded with unskilled immigrants who can't even speak English. As someone with quite a few very well-educated Romanian friends who would love to come to this country, it infuriates me to no end that they can't get in while an uneducated clown just waltzes across the southern border. He, of course, won't learn English. And he'll work a low paying job and ultimately cost the tax payer money.
Meanwhile, that Romanain could have contributed to our economy as an engineer, not only serving as an asset to our tech sector/infrastructure, but also more than paying for him/herself. All the while speaking English.
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