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Kremlin Riddled with Former KGB Agents
Spiegel Online ^ | December 14, 2006

Posted on 03/07/2007 10:54:02 AM PST by Fennie

Four out of five members of Russia's political and business elite have a KGB past, according to a new study by the prestigious Academy of Sciences. The influence of ex-Soviet spies has ballooned under President Vladimir Putin...

(Excerpt) Read more at spiegel.de ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: kremlin; putin; siloviki

1 posted on 03/07/2007 10:54:05 AM PST by Fennie
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To: Fennie

Gee, no sh*t? This suddenly is a story, NOW? Well, at least maybe people are waking up.


2 posted on 03/07/2007 10:55:42 AM PST by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: Fennie

This is one of the reasons that true freedom and democracy will never happen in Russia. It will continue to be a police state with ONE party....(the wetdream of our socialist liberals).


3 posted on 03/07/2007 10:56:18 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: Fennie

I heard that after WWII, there were a lot of former NAZIs in Germany and Austria. That could just be an urban legend though. :)


4 posted on 03/07/2007 10:56:48 AM PST by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Pingage


5 posted on 03/07/2007 10:56:51 AM PST by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: Fennie

Whoever wrote this story better hire a food taster and someone to start his or her car.


6 posted on 03/07/2007 10:57:04 AM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: Frank_Discussion

7 posted on 03/07/2007 10:58:46 AM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: EagleUSA
a police state with ONE party - There was a photo spread in a Paris magazine showing a picture of two ladies one 25 the other 30 on the beach in Thailand enjoying a holiday. Then an assassin pumped 5 shots with a 9mm into each of them. The article said they had no idea why someone would do that. Kinda messed up their holiday but I imagine someone got the message.
8 posted on 03/07/2007 11:01:38 AM PST by SF Republican
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To: Fennie

Their motto is a tad bit more stringent than "What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas."


9 posted on 03/07/2007 11:03:07 AM PST by Sax
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To: Fennie

Does any one have a list they can wave around, detailing the Communist infiltrators in the Russian government? Anyone? Bueller? McCarthy?


10 posted on 03/07/2007 11:04:33 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Enoch Powell was right.)
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To: P-40
I heard that after WWII, there were a lot of former NAZIs in Germany and Austria. That could just be an urban legend though.

That's no urban myth. It's the plain truth... and not surprising at all. Post-war Germany and Austria needed working institutions, officials, police, fire-protection, factories etc... Where did they get all those professionals? Since most of those professionals were Nazi-Party members (out of necessity) they were quickly re-installed. Excluding them would have meant the collapse of Germany and Austria. That was a real problem for the Allies back then. It's the same problem in Iraq today. The same professional clerks and officials which are needed were almost exclusively Baathists back tgen. They had to be party-members. Now many of them still are excluded... understandable from a Shia or Kurdish position, but anyway it would be better if those, who were not involved in crimes, are re-installed... Just as we did in Germany 50 years ago.

11 posted on 03/07/2007 11:08:14 AM PST by SolidWood (Attack Iran NOW!)
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To: Fennie

Wrong. Six out of every five have the past connected with KGB. Four out of five might have been on official KGB payroll. The rest could have been part-time informers, or those same kegebuns operating under different covers [like, for example, every head of every personnel department, or of "first department"-security dept] in every soviet establishment. Here one could speak of "kegebuchest'" as a defining characteristic of the socially active part of the whole population.


12 posted on 03/07/2007 11:08:43 AM PST by GSlob
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To: SolidWood

I meant that as a joke. If all ex-NAZIs had been excluded, there would not have been much of a labor force. And of course some of them we hired, not just for their rocketry, but for their help in spying on the Warsaw Pact countries. The world does work in funny ways.


13 posted on 03/07/2007 11:20:51 AM PST by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: SolidWood

The main difference here, however, is that the KGB was not a political party, it was a vocation that you signed up for as an employee. Nazi party membership was necessary to keep from getting summarily killed as a traitor, KGB employment is not required to live and work in the Soviet system.

Those who found employment in the KGB wanted it. That Soviet loyalists are still in positions of power in the Kremlin is no small matter. Though it is old news...


15 posted on 03/07/2007 11:29:32 AM PST by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: Fennie

The Chess-Champions are always coming out Russia, why not America?


16 posted on 03/07/2007 1:09:12 PM PST by Fennie
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