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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

I am considering learning and haveing my young children learn Mandarin (along w Spanish). Two questions: Is it difficult to learn? And is it important to learn? Or will all these Chinese speak English anyway?


18 posted on 03/07/2007 6:18:37 AM PST by montag813
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To: montag813
For you (unless you're linguist genius), Spanish will be MUCH, MUCH easier. It's an Indo-European, Satem (or Centum?) language which uses a very similar alphabet. It's a Romance language, but 60% of English is supposed to be of Latin origin (though basic English is largely Germanic, which is why English is a Germanic language). It's phonetic, to boot.

For your children, they could have it easier, for both languages. If they are under ten years old, the chances of them becoming fluent are higher than if they were adults.

Mandarin does seem to be a very organized language--one advantage. However, it is also tonal, something not very common in English or other Western languages.

Those who are trying to take up English deserve sympathy. English is an amalgamation of primarily Germanic, Latin, and French languages, with sundry others tossed in. Even the grammar is supposed to be a mix. And it isn't very phonetic, and verb conjugation is convoluted. Since it is normal for native Anglophones, Anglophones might consider it easy. According to non-native Anglophones, it isn't.

19 posted on 03/07/2007 6:30:00 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: montag813
So, type, for a native Swahili user, of the three main languages (Mandarin is a guess, while the PRC is growing at a very rapid pace, its area of distribution is concentrated in East and Southeast Asia), from easiest to most difficult might be: Mandarin/Spanish and then English. (Not an expert on Swahili, hence Mandarin and Spanish being put together). However, if one of the Indo-European languages is a native language, then the other would obviously be easier to take up.

Even if pronouncing an aveolar trill is extremely difficult (Spanish r trill). Personally could use the uvular trill instead for Spanish r. Apparently it has to do with where in the mouth the r sound in made. In English, there are two ways, one around the aveolar ridge (the plateau between the top teeth and the palate) and the other near the bottom of the mouth. If you use the former, you could have more success with the aveolar trill. Guessing this is also why Japanese attempting to pronounce l make an r sound (l is also around the aveolar ridge).

Sorry for rambling.

20 posted on 03/07/2007 6:38:14 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: montag813
I am considering learning and haveing my young children learn Mandarin (along w Spanish). Two questions: Is it difficult to learn? And is it important to learn? Or will all these Chinese speak English anyway?

If you're thinking in practical terms, it is probably better to have your kids learn the language of a country that has a significant population *and* has a comparable salary to that of the US. From that standpoint, it's pointless to learn either Spanish or Chinese, since they can hire lower-paid locals with English skills. Think French, German or Italian.

24 posted on 03/09/2007 12:47:11 AM PST by Zhang Fei
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