Posted on 03/06/2007 10:53:23 PM PST by Jim Robinson
Edited on 03/06/2007 11:02:15 PM PST by Jim Robinson. [history]
Rudy Giuliani on Judge John Roberts
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COLMES: Now, on abortion now, you are pro-choice, right?
GIULIANI: Yes.
COLMES: You're a pro-choice Republican.
GIULIANI: I am.
COLMES: There's some questions to whether, you know, Roe vs. Wade (search). He made one statement as solicitor general and deputy solicitor general and saying that it should be overturned, Roe v. Wade. None of go ahead.
GIULIANI: Actually, he made that statement arguing a case before the court, in which that was the position of his client. So you can't...
(CROSSTALK)
COLMES: And then he said it's established law when he was up for confirmation in 2003. How do we glean from that? And how do we read the tea leaves in this?
GIULIANI: You don't. What you glean from that is you listen to the argument before the court. You listen to his colleagues and he'll make a decision.
And like any Supreme Court justice, he'll be very much influenced by precedent, but if he thinks that something is said to him or there's some argument that appeals to his intellect, his common sense, his background, I mean, the Supreme Court usually sticks with precedence. And sometimes they overturn them.
COLMES: Now, Roe vs. Wade -- You are pro-choice. How important is it to you as a pro-choice Republican to have a pro-choice on the court as someone...
GIULIANI: That is not the critical factor. And what's important to me is to have a very intelligent, very honest, very good lawyer on the court. And he fits that category, in the same way Justice Ginsburg fit that category.
I mean, she was she maybe came at it from a very different political background, very qualified lawyer, very smart person. Lots of Republicans supported her. I expect, and listening to Senator Nelson, I expect that John Roberts will get support from a lot of Democrats.
COLMES: Now, he is coming under fire from some Democrats for claiming they're claiming he is a partisan, that he had a behind-the-scenes role in advising the Florida attorney general during the 2000 election fight, that he gave money to the Bush-Cheney 2000 campaign...
GIULIANI: He's a Republican.
COLMES: ... made the maximum. Is that...
GIULIANI: Who do you think the president's going to appoint?
COLMES: All right, but in other words...
GIULIANI: How many Republicans did President Clinton appoint?
COLMES: Should it be partisan like that?
GIULIANI: He isn't that partisan. He's a Republican who believes in the Republican Party and no more partisan than lots of people who get appointed to the United States Supreme Court and turn out to be excellent justices.
COLMES: So it's not an issue if you've donated ...
(CROSSTALK)
GIULIANI: Earl Warren was the governor of a state. He was the Republican-elected governor of a state and...
(CROSSTALK)
COLMES: ... donated money to the guy whose nominated you, if you've given him money, money to his campaign, if you've worked to get him elected, behind the scenes advising the attorney general?
GIULIANI: Sure. That's be exactly the kind of person you'd think that you'd want to appoint, somebody who shares kind of your general outlook, but hasn't indicated and hasn't really predetermined most of the cases that are going to be determined by the court.
Presidents, going back to the beginning of the republic, generally appoint people on the Supreme Court that they believe agree with them. It's sort of an extraordinary thing to ask of President Bush. Nobody asked it of President Clinton.
President Clinton appointed people that basically agreed with his political philosophy, which is left of center. Of course, President Bush is going to appoint people that basically agree with his political philosophy. And then what we found out about the Supreme
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So do I and those Conservatives who've examined Rudy with any depth. The damage his nomination/election would do to the conservative position would be felt for decades.
And oftentimes, to win us to our harm,
The instruments of darkness tell us truths
Win us with honest trifles, to betray's
In deepest consequence.
'They are of a free and open nature, that thinks men honest that but seem to be so, and will be as tenderly lead by the nose as asses are.'
And where is this phantom conservative president you support? Reagan doesn't even fit your description. You're asking for someone with the accounting mind of Scrooge, the revolutionary fervor of Jefferson, and the compassion of Jesus - good luck.
This one happened an entire month ago. Yeah, I see your point.
Just love how Alan Colmes and the MSM have become the heroes of the right wing.
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Giuliani, a frequent keynote speaker at NARAL abortion banquets, will appoint people to the Supreme Court who agree with him?
Comforting! /sarc
Yeah, but as the Rudybots would explain to us, "but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but". Seems they're falling all over their butts. ;)
The premise that "Presidents generally appoint people on the Supreme Court that they believe agree with them" is only part of the story.
We know from our own experience that a president's judicial nominees are subject to intense scrutiny by outside forces----the president's political supporters. The presidential nominee may or may not survive the scrutiny-----I give you Harriet Meirs.
Irregardless of the crumbs he's throwing to conservatives about potential nominees, Rudy is joined at the hip to NARAL, Planned Parenthood, and the most radical pro-abortion elements.
You can bet your bottom dollar judicial picks will be scrutinized, decided upon, and seated, by the NARAL crowd. NO WAY would NARAL permit their boy Rudy to install conservative-leaning judges.
Anybody who believes Rudy would seat conservative judges is smoking something illegal.
The pro-abortion savages have commenced the killing of the innocents. Who knows where it will stop with Rudy controlling the levers of government, and NARAL whispering in his ear?
If you got a "keep a RINO out of the White House" ping list going, could you please add me to it? Thanks!
"We" are people who just joined up today--ones on the watch list for a spare screen name, or perhaps a paid member of the Giuliani camp.
They DO???
Whoda thunk!
This election is really eye-opening. I am amazed at the level in which many 'conservatives' will go in the name of whom they think is a 'sure win'. A 'sure win' will most likely turn into disaster not only for Rudy but for the GOP. And if by some reason Rudy did actually become President, the Demonrat Congress and Rudy will become a little too chummy like has been warned and we can thank the enablers for allowing liberal policies to be enacted to no end. Rudy should not be President.
Because Rudy has also claimed he would appoint strict constructionists.
heroes? hardly. the MSM is going to do what it does, which is attack and expose weaknesses of Republicans and protect Dems at all costs. if a republican candidate has excessive baggage and weaknesses, a la rudy, they will have a field day. count on it. it is WHAT THEY DO. as far as alan colmes, he serves here to highlight the common sense proposition that presidents appoint judges consistent with their own philosophy. i totally agree with that common sense proposition and that is why i put no stock in the conservatives banking on rudy appointing judges consistent with a prolife philosophy, when his philosophy is pro-choice. what i find puzzling is the rudyphiles whining about the media exposing rudy's weaknesses, when we all know that is exactly their modus operandi. and if rudy can't take it NOW, in primary season, how foolish to put him out there in a general election.
I love it. We're supposed to judge a politician by what he says now when he needs our vote - not what he did in the past when he didn't need it.
You're a perfect fit for the Rudy Borg. They probably have a suit already in your size.
Are you saying to ignore a person's history? It is quite possible for a person to change, but is usually more believable if it is done without trying to win a nomination for POTUS.
well he is wearing his borgsuit elsewhere, bc apparently jim zotted him as retread.
So where is his abortion office?
Actually we ignore all these flamebait threads. And we will continue to do so. So I'll be seeing ya if I don't get banned. Goodbye.
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