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Rudy: Presidents generally appoint people on the Supreme Court that they believe agree with them.
FOX News ^ | July 20, 2005 | Hannity & Colmes

Posted on 03/06/2007 10:53:23 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Edited on 03/06/2007 11:02:15 PM PST by Jim Robinson. [history]

Rudy Giuliani on Judge John Roberts

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COLMES: Now, on abortion — now, you are pro-choice, right?

GIULIANI: Yes.

COLMES: You're a pro-choice Republican.

GIULIANI: I am.

COLMES: There's some questions to whether, you know, Roe vs. Wade (search). He made one statement as solicitor general and deputy solicitor general and saying that it should be overturned, Roe v. Wade. None of — go ahead.

GIULIANI: Actually, he made that statement arguing a case before the court, in which that was the position of his client. So you can't...

(CROSSTALK)

COLMES: And then he said it's established law when he was up for confirmation in 2003. How do we glean from that? And how do we read the tea leaves in this?

GIULIANI: You don't. What you glean from that is you listen to the argument before the court. You listen to his colleagues and he'll make a decision.

And like any Supreme Court justice, he'll be very much influenced by precedent, but if he thinks that something is said to him or there's some argument that appeals to his intellect, his common sense, his background, I mean, the Supreme Court usually sticks with precedence. And sometimes they overturn them.

COLMES: Now, Roe vs. Wade -- You are pro-choice. How important is it to you as a pro-choice Republican to have a pro-choice on the court as someone...

GIULIANI: That is not the critical factor. And what's important to me is to have a very intelligent, very honest, very good lawyer on the court. And he fits that category, in the same way Justice Ginsburg fit that category.

I mean, she was — she maybe came at it from a very different political background, very qualified lawyer, very smart person. Lots of Republicans supported her. I expect, and listening to Senator Nelson, I expect that John Roberts will get support from a lot of Democrats.

COLMES: Now, he is coming under fire from some Democrats for claiming — they're claiming he is a partisan, that he had a behind-the-scenes role in advising the Florida attorney general during the 2000 election fight, that he gave money to the Bush-Cheney 2000 campaign...

GIULIANI: He's a Republican.

COLMES: ... made the maximum. Is that...

GIULIANI: Who do you think the president's going to appoint?

COLMES: All right, but in other words...

GIULIANI: How many Republicans did President Clinton appoint?

COLMES: Should it be partisan like that?

GIULIANI: He isn't that partisan. He's a Republican who believes in the Republican Party and no more partisan than lots of people who get appointed to the United States Supreme Court and turn out to be excellent justices.

COLMES: So it's not an issue if you've donated ...

(CROSSTALK)

GIULIANI: Earl Warren was the governor of a state. He was the Republican-elected governor of a state and...

(CROSSTALK)

COLMES: ... donated money to the guy whose nominated you, if you've given him money, money to his campaign, if you've worked to get him elected, behind the scenes advising the attorney general?

GIULIANI: Sure. That's be exactly the kind of person you'd think that you'd want to appoint, somebody who shares kind of your general outlook, but hasn't indicated and hasn't really predetermined most of the cases that are going to be determined by the court.

Presidents, going back to the beginning of the republic, generally appoint people on the Supreme Court that they believe agree with them. It's sort of an extraordinary thing to ask of President Bush. Nobody asked it of President Clinton.

President Clinton appointed people that basically agreed with his political philosophy, which is left of center. Of course, President Bush is going to appoint people that basically agree with his political philosophy. And then what we found out about the Supreme

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: elections; giuliani; homosexualagenda; moralabsolutes; rudybots
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To: gpapa
"He assumes that SC judges are "very much influenced by precedent", and "should be a very good lawyer". Well, color me unimpressed. No where in his last answers is any mention of the constitution. He sounds like a "stare decisis" kind of guy, and we already have enough of those."

Very true. Vertical stare decisis is essential to the stability of this country. Horizontal stare decisis is important too, but it's far more flexible than vertical and the Left doesn't really care one iota about it.

Just think if this "respect stare decisis" mantra had carried the day when it came to such horrible decisions as Plessy v. Ferguson. Some cases need to be overruled or ignored because they are horrible law. Cases can bring stability (although Roe, Casey, and their progency have brought none whatsoever) and still need to be overruled because of their incorrectness and atrociousness. Justice Thomas and Scalia get this concept. I think Alito and (to some extent) Roberts get it too. (Though I'm not sure that they are quite as willing as Thomas and Scalia to overrule major precedents.)

It is my hope that one day we'll look back on the abortion cases like we now look back on Dred Scott.
41 posted on 03/06/2007 11:44:29 PM PST by NinoFan (Rudy Lovers: The Rosie O'Donnell Wing of the Republican Party)
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To: Sun
It baffles me how that simple logic escapes some folks..
42 posted on 03/06/2007 11:45:35 PM PST by SeaBiscuit (God Bless America..Duncan Hunter 2008.)
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To: EternalVigilance
All the marks of a troll.

Yep.

43 posted on 03/06/2007 11:46:14 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: NinoFan

Obvious typo in my post. (I'm sure there are others.) Progency=progeny


44 posted on 03/06/2007 11:46:40 PM PST by NinoFan (Rudy Lovers: The Rosie O'Donnell Wing of the Republican Party)
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To: Mike Nolan

retread banned


45 posted on 03/06/2007 11:47:40 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: EternalVigilance

"All the marks of a troll. Posts and runs, doesn't answer when addressed."

He can't respond anymore. He's gone.


46 posted on 03/06/2007 11:47:56 PM PST by flashbunny (<--- Free Anti-Rino graphics! See Rudy the Rino get exposed as a liberal with his own words!)
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To: Jim Robinson
But But Jim, Rudy the only one that can win! He, no his surrogates promised that he would take time off killing babies and gun grabbing and supporting degenerates so we should support him, OK /s
47 posted on 03/06/2007 11:51:00 PM PST by Dstorm
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To: Fierce Allegiance
So Rudy thinks that Ruth Bader Ginsburg is a good justice, and he goes on to say he would only chose justices who agree with him.

Now, since he wholeheartedly supports abortion on demand, we can expect him, if elected president, to nominate someone in the mold of Ginsburg who supports abortion on demand.

NO, THANKS!

Anyone is better than that for the Republican ticket.
48 posted on 03/06/2007 11:52:10 PM PST by Deo volente
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To: Jim Robinson

Where are the Rudybots on this thread. Did they all go to bed. Or are they afraid to tangle with the Freepers who have posted so far on this thread. Bring 'em on.


49 posted on 03/06/2007 11:54:15 PM PST by gpapa (Boost FR Traffic! Make FR your home page!)
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To: EternalVigilance

and supports a liberal for president.


50 posted on 03/07/2007 12:04:07 AM PST by upsdriver ((Hunter / Thompson......Gonzo politics)
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To: Jim Robinson

Whenever we have the next poll, I think it would be very interesting to have a Rudy v. Romney question. I'm curious how the mormon aspect would come into play, as well as how many FReepers would go third party in that scenario.


51 posted on 03/07/2007 12:07:09 AM PST by NinoFan (Rudy Lovers: The Rosie O'Donnell Wing of the Republican Party)
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To: Jim Robinson

His opponents will have a field day with that material. Ouch!


52 posted on 03/07/2007 12:08:44 AM PST by nowandlater
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To: Jim Robinson

I still think that "third party" option is kind of a bizarre one for the primary questions BTW, but I get what it's trying to address.


53 posted on 03/07/2007 12:09:41 AM PST by NinoFan (Rudy Lovers: The Rosie O'Donnell Wing of the Republican Party)
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To: NinoFan

Count me as third party if Giuliani, Romney or McCain are the Republican nominee.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_w9pquznG4


54 posted on 03/07/2007 12:20:06 AM PST by EternalVigilance (With "Republicans" like these, who needs Democrats?)
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To: EternalVigilance

I agree that Romney is too liberal, especially on abortion. I have a lot of relatives who are LDS (I'm not), and it's difficult to explain to them why I think Romney isn't a good choice without offending them. They really like the idea of a Mormon for President. The best way I've found to open their minds to the possibility that Romney isn't all that is to remind them that Harry Reid is technically LDS. They get it then.


55 posted on 03/07/2007 12:34:40 AM PST by NinoFan (Rudy Lovers: The Rosie O'Donnell Wing of the Republican Party)
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To: NinoFan

Romney's candidacy is the worst thing that could have happened to the LDS church.


56 posted on 03/07/2007 12:52:02 AM PST by EternalVigilance (With "Republicans" like these, who needs Democrats?)
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To: gpapa
Where are the Rudybots on this thread. Did they all go to bed.

Maybe you're right: A one-term President Hillary Rodham Clinton is what this country needs before conservatives can muster decent candidates?

We don't have one—and it's too early anyway:

1) There are potential third-party candidates out there to throw the election.

2) Hitlery hasn't had a press conference yet—to show she's NOT up to the job.

3) Youtube.

:^)

57 posted on 03/07/2007 1:19:03 AM PST by Eclectica (Ask your MD about Evolution. Please!)
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To: Jim Robinson

I believe that he will put in someone he believes is a "Constitutionalist", but I seriously doubt his appointment will be in favor of abortion.

A liberal Democrat on another board was saying the Democrats would consider it a "moral victory" if JulieAnnie won the election.


58 posted on 03/07/2007 1:54:21 AM PST by Pinkbell
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To: NinoFan

"...It is my hope that one day we'll look back on the abortion cases like we now look back on Dred Scott..."



We already do... 2 court decisions which circumvented the will of the people, 2 decisions which take a certain section of mankind and treat them as chattel.

2 decisions which betrays this almost morbid fetish the West has with embracing an idea that can only lead to figurative... and ultimately, literal... death.

Dred Scott: blacks are property, no rights, mere chattel to do with as a person desires...
Roe v Wade: simply replace the word "blacks" with "babies".

From your screen to God's inbox, Nino... may it one day be so...


59 posted on 03/07/2007 2:55:01 AM PST by CGVet58 (God has granted us Liberty, and we owe Him Courage in return)
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To: Jim Robinson

Asking myself, "Az, would you support a pro-abortion, gun grabbing, liberal candidate?"

As Rudy said, "No, I have not supported that, and I don’t see my position on that changing."


60 posted on 03/07/2007 2:57:48 AM PST by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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