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The Prodigal Son
The American Spectator ^ | March 6, 2007 | William Tucker

Posted on 03/06/2007 7:06:19 AM PST by Peach

The other night I was having dinner with two friends in an Upper West Side restaurant when an extraordinarily loud group of about a dozen people settled into the next table.

THE LONG KNIVES HAVE BEEN out for Giuliani ever since he started proving liberals wrong in the 1990s, and it's only going to get worse. "Him?" was the one-word headline on the cover story in New York last week, followed by, "New Yorkers may be surprised by how far Rudy Giuliani has come already. But that's only because we know him."

As a footnote, it should be pointed out that Giuliani won a landslide re-election in 1997 in a city that is less than 20 percent Republican. Polls are already showing Rudy running even with fellow New Yorker Hillary Clinton and winning New Jersey, a more representative Democratic state. When New York refers to "New Yorkers," it is only describing a very isolated, self-satisfied slice of the population.

http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=11102

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TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: fiscalconservative; rudyforpresident

1 posted on 03/06/2007 7:06:20 AM PST by Peach
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To: areafiftyone

Ping


2 posted on 03/06/2007 7:06:48 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons' pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: Peach

Just before Giuliani was elected in 1993, Time ran a cover story on "The Rotting Apple." Three years later, Giuliani was on the cover as "The Man Who Saved New York." (It was only five years later he became "Man of the Year" in 2001.) Read Fred Siegel's Prince of the City and you will find 90 percent of Giuliani's accomplishments came before September 11th. He cut murders from 2,100 a year to less than 800. He drove the mafia out of the Fulton Fish Market -- even though a few city officials almost got killed in the process. He cut taxes in a city that had never seen a tax cut. He cut spending (ditto). He faced off against every municipal union in the city -- including the police, who rioted against him. He pulled New York's economy so far out of the depths that for the first time since the 1950s the city grew faster than the rest of the country. (Under David Dinkins and Mario Cuomo, New York had lost one out of every five jobs during the 1991 recession.)


3 posted on 03/06/2007 7:07:55 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons' pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: Peach
As a footnote, it should be pointed out that Giuliani won a landslide re-election in 1997 in a city that is less than 20 percent Republican. Polls are already showing Rudy running even with fellow New Yorker Hillary Clinton and winning New Jersey, a more representative Democratic state.

Doesn't anyone understand what is happening here? These people are all supporters of Rudy Giuliani BECAUSE THEY KNOW HE'S A LIBERAL.

Trust me on this one . . . a candidate who can win in New York City and in New Jersey these days would be terrible for this country.

4 posted on 03/06/2007 7:15:06 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: Peach

good article- thanks for posting


5 posted on 03/06/2007 7:16:09 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: Peach

Plus, the New York MSM knows him. Moreover, in order for the elites to maintain gridlock the President must be Republican, as liebrals are too smart to fall for any demoncrats in name onlyies [DINOs].


6 posted on 03/06/2007 7:16:43 AM PST by 100-Fold_Return (Sell Low--Buy Lower)
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To: Peach
Read Fred Siegel's Prince of the City and you will find 90 percent of Giuliani's accomplishments came before September 11th.

You're actually wrong here. I think it's more like 99% of his accomplishments came before 9/11. What's worth noting here is that -- with this point in mind -- if Rudy Giuliani had run for re-election in 2001 and the election had been held on September 10th, he probably would have lost by a pretty wide margin.

I think a lot of it has to do with the notion that at least 90% of his accomplishments came before he ran for re-election in 1997.

7 posted on 03/06/2007 7:21:37 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: Alberta's Child
Read the article and take off your blinders. The fringes of both Parties will never accept anyone but an ideological purist. The problem is that such a person has NO chance of being elected either by the left or the right.

Your claim that New Yorkers like Rudy because he is a liberal is pure horse pucky. He was hated and reviled as Mayor and every success he had was discounted amid claims of civil rights infractions and any other excuse they could manufacture.
8 posted on 03/06/2007 7:27:52 AM PST by Eagles Talon IV
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To: Alberta's Child
Perhaps you are right, he may have lost. It's the Churchill phenomenon. Churchill did more to keep Britain together then could possibly be imagined. A greater leader (for good) this world has never seen. And yet when he had finished his work and it resulted in an allied victory, the grateful Brits tossed him out on his ear.

Being short sighted is a great human failing. Having done great things in NYC, the left may have decided he was no longer needed since all was well. It's not exactly a "what have you done for me lately" thought process as much as a "you can't do any more for me" mind set.
9 posted on 03/06/2007 7:35:04 AM PST by Eagles Talon IV
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To: Eagles Talon IV
The fringes of both Parties will never accept anyone but an ideological purist.

I agree with you on that one -- but the fringes of both Parties don't elect the president. I would put my conservative "credentials" up against anyone here -- and yet I'd be the first to acknowledge that a "pure" conservative candidate is unlikely to win a presidential election. The problem with Giuliani is that this "purity" argument is complete nonsense. He's actually closer to a "pure liberal" than a "pure conservative."

Your claim that New Yorkers like Rudy because he is a liberal is pure horse pucky. He was hated and reviled as Mayor and every success he had was discounted amid claims of civil rights infractions and any other excuse they could manufacture.

Actually, your claim that New Yorkers hated and reviled him as mayor is pure horse pucky. The author correctly points out that he was re-elected in a landslide in 1997, so clearly "New Yorkers" didn't hate and revile him at all.

I find it pretty astonishing that even here on FreeRepublic we have some folks who consider the opinions of a bunch of elitist @ssholes at a restaurant on Manhattan's Upper West Side to be representative of New York City as a whole.

10 posted on 03/06/2007 7:42:52 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: Eagles Talon IV
I've followed the New York political scene for years. Giuliani's second term in office was a relatively quiet time in the city compared to his first (when most of his biggest accomplishments were evident). His second term was also marked by far more controversy (from an objective standpoint, not in the minds of some professional malcontents on the Upper West Side) than his first, including the unraveling of his marriage (and the sordid tales surrounding it). A number of key NYPD figures from his first term had moved on to greener pastures (William Bratton, John Timoney, etc.), and his second term marked the appointment of that bizarre character Bernard Kerik to the post of NYPD commissioner.

In addition, By September of 2001 many of Giuliani's earlier supporters had simply grown tired of his totalitarian approach to governing the city.

11 posted on 03/06/2007 7:50:16 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: Eagles Talon IV
"Churchill did more to keep Britain together then could possibly be imagined. A greater leader (for good) this world has never seen. And yet when he had finished his work and it resulted in an allied victory, the grateful Brits tossed him out on his ear."

"A prophet is not without honor, save in his own country." (Matt. X 3:57)

12 posted on 03/06/2007 1:08:31 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Eagles Talon IV
"The fringes of both Parties will never accept anyone but an ideological purist."

And that individual does not exist in real politics, so what happens is that the fringes will throw support

13 posted on 03/06/2007 1:22:40 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Peach
Excellent article. Thanks for posting.

Of course, it's from the gun-grabbing, baby-killing, cross-dressing, treasonous-liberal American Spectator. /s

14 posted on 03/06/2007 2:17:25 PM PST by M. Thatcher
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To: Eagles Talon IV

The Churchill analogy is apt.


15 posted on 03/06/2007 2:22:17 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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