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The Latest on Rudy's Viability
U.S. News & World Report ^ | 3/5/07 | Michael Barone

Posted on 03/05/2007 8:17:21 PM PST by Sunsong

In a typically thorough, fair-minded, well-written article, the Washington Post's Dan Balz examines the indications that despite many predictions, Rudy Giuliani has a serious chance to win the Republican presidential nomination. You might have read a similar though at the time necessarily more speculative analysis six months ago. It seemed to be the rule from 1980 to 2000 that only abortion opponents could win the Republican presidential nomination (just as it seemed to be the rule from 1984 to 2004 that only supporters of abortion rights could win the Democratic presidential nomination). But rules in politics don't always last forever. They're good only as long as they're good. From its admission to the Union up through 1972,

One item of evidence Balz cites is Giuliani's performance in the straw poll at last weekend's Conservative Political Action Conference meeting in Washington. Mitt Romney, who has switched only recently to oppose abortion, led with 21 percent of the votes; Giuliani placed second with 17 percent. Third was Sam Brownback, far less well known to the public and a strong abortion opponent since 1995 (although in 1994 he faced and defeated a stronger abortion opponent in the Republican primary for the Kansas Second House District). Blogger and Giuliani backer Patrick Ruffini points out that Giuliani led in combined first- and second-choice support, with 34 percent; next were Romney and Newt Gingrich, with 30 percent….

…Giuliani spoke for 40 minutes, and there were some rather long intervals with no applause--but also with no whispering or buzzes: It was eerily quiet, and I got the impression people were genuinely interested in hearing what Giuliani had to say.

Interestingly, the one domestic issue that he emphasized more than any other was school choice...

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; duncanhunter; giuliani; rudy; rudyguiliani
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1 posted on 03/05/2007 8:17:24 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: areafiftyone; PhiKapMom; BunnySlippers

Rudy ping


2 posted on 03/05/2007 8:18:05 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: Sunsong

how's this for predictions

Charlie Cook is famous for making predictions that were incorrect.

According to this, Charlie Cook better buy a Schwinn.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/24/AR2006102401248_pf.html

"I would give McCain a 60, 65 percent chance of winning the Republican nomination," he disclosed. By contrast, he added, "I'll win the Tour de France before Rudy Giuliani wins the Republican nomination."


3 posted on 03/05/2007 8:22:48 PM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: finnman69

LOL - thanks for that(s).


4 posted on 03/05/2007 8:24:44 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: Sunsong

Whatever else you might say about this guy, he totally turned NY city around. Friends from NY worship the guy.


5 posted on 03/05/2007 8:31:00 PM PST by rickdylan
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To: Sunsong

I like Barone and he's usually very accurate . In this instance he only addresses one of the social issues . A winning primary candidate has to be solid on Abortion and Gun Rights to win the Republican primary . The importance of the gun issue always seems to be overlooked and downplayed . Rudy will not be able to overcome or explain away his love and lust for strict gun control over the years . He hasn't even made an attempt to move to the right on the issue.


6 posted on 03/05/2007 8:31:38 PM PST by Neu Pragmatist ( Rudy '08 - When Conservatism absolutely positively has to be destroyed .)
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To: rickdylan
Friends from NY worship the guy.

I saw and felt it first hand. Rudy's an SOB, but he made a believer out of me.

7 posted on 03/05/2007 8:32:33 PM PST by zarf (Her hair was of a dank yellow, and fell over her temples like sauerkraut......)
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To: Sunsong
I have a great deal of respect for Michael Barone and what he comes up with studying all the election bits and pieces. If he is correct that we are about to become two parties who are pro-choice, the Republican party will dissolve and the remaining party faithful will have to merge with the Democrats to survive, because that's the only way they are likely to win anything and have any power. Social conservatives will form a conservative 3rd party that will also be too small to win or wield any power.

How come I won't be surprised to see the "two-headed" party become one?

8 posted on 03/05/2007 8:33:29 PM PST by penowa (NO more Bushes; NO more Clintons EVER!)
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To: rickdylan
Whatever else you might say about this guy, he totally turned NY city around. Friends from NY worship the guy.

Good point. He has shown us some of what he can do.

9 posted on 03/05/2007 8:33:51 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: Neu Pragmatist
Rudy will not be able to overcome or explain away his love and lust for strict gun control over the years . He hasn't even made an attempt to move to the right on the issue.

I'm not predicting the future. I wish he would come out strong for the second amendment. That would help me in choosing.

10 posted on 03/05/2007 8:35:14 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: zarf
Rudy's an SOB, but he made a believer out of me.

LOL - well there you go(s)

11 posted on 03/05/2007 8:36:04 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: rickdylan
>>>>>Friends from NY worship the guy.

Then your friends worship a liberal.

>>>>Whatever else...

Rudy is another big government Republican, who also supports abortion on demand, gun control, amnesty, gay rights, and he believes that humans are the major cause of global warming.

I wouldn't vote for this guy to be dog catcher.

12 posted on 03/05/2007 8:36:42 PM PST by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: penowa
I have a great deal of respect for Michael Barone and what he comes up with studying all the election bits and pieces.

Me too. He is simply amazing.

13 posted on 03/05/2007 8:37:17 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: penowa
Social conservatives will form a conservative 3rd party that will also be too small to win or wield any power.

I don't understand why many of the abortion obsessed (a majority who seem to be men for some reason) don't bolt and join the Right To Life Party.

If they think the abortion issue is the ticket, they should punch it.

14 posted on 03/05/2007 8:37:36 PM PST by zarf (Her hair was of a dank yellow, and fell over her temples like sauerkraut......)
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To: Reagan Man

How many times have you repeated that? LOL


15 posted on 03/05/2007 8:38:15 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: Sunsong

16 posted on 03/05/2007 8:39:18 PM PST by Verax ("Colored people are like human weeds and are to be exterminated - Planned Parenthood President,")
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To: Sunsong

At least Romney is making a strong attempt for the gun rights vote and welcoming the NRA to educate him further on this issue . It has made a good impression on me towards Romney .


17 posted on 03/05/2007 8:39:28 PM PST by Neu Pragmatist ( Rudy '08 - When Conservatism absolutely positively has to be destroyed .)
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To: Neu Pragmatist

He can say he believes in gun control for NYC, but that outside the boroughs he knows there is no way it will happen and therefore he will not move to advocate gun control as POTUS. I think that if he means this, he can leave the issue to the states and not have it as a become a stumbling block...

I am projecting what I think would be a reasonable position if truthfully held...


18 posted on 03/05/2007 8:39:44 PM PST by muffaletaman
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To: penowa
Check this out:

Rudy deal on Roe V Wade

19 posted on 03/05/2007 8:39:56 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: Sunsong

Many times, and there is many more times to come.

Right up until we send this liberal RINO packing back to the Hamptons.


20 posted on 03/05/2007 8:40:21 PM PST by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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