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Deliberations continue in CIA leak trial
Yahoo News ^ | March 5, 2007 | Matt Apuzo

Posted on 03/05/2007 10:16:14 AM PST by Billy Jacks blog

Jurors have been deliberating since Wednesday, Feb. 21. As they left for the weekend Friday, they passed U.S. District Judge Reggie B. Walton a note.

"We would like clarification of the term 'reasonable doubt,'" jurors wrote. "Specifically, is it necessary for the government to present evidence that it is not humanly possible for someone not to recall an event in order to find guilt beyond a reasonable doubt."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cialeak; fitzfong; fitzgerald; libby; plame
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What is so confusing about "a reasonable doubt?" It's difficult to tell from this question which way the jury is leaning, but it sounds like they are really splitting hairs. That may or may not be good for Libby.

Billy Jack

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1 posted on 03/05/2007 10:16:16 AM PST by Billy Jacks blog
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MY doubt is reasonable, YOUR doubt is not.
2 posted on 03/05/2007 10:17:50 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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Why don't they just vote and have done with it? Why tell the government what they must or must not provide? If they don't feel the government met their burden, why give them another bite of the apple?


3 posted on 03/05/2007 10:19:03 AM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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That may or may not be good for Libby

No kidding?

4 posted on 03/05/2007 10:21:05 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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Have you noticed that every media story about Libby has the same final paragraph?

The five charges against Libby carry a combined top penalty of 30 years in prison, but federal sentencing guidelines would call for a far shorter sentence — possibly one to three years — even if he were convicted of all five counts.

It's like they're actively trying to influence the jury, hoping for a happy fitzmas.

5 posted on 03/05/2007 10:21:09 AM PST by SmithL (si vis pacem, para bellum)
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This does not sound good for Scooter.


6 posted on 03/05/2007 10:21:38 AM PST by TSchmereL ("Rust but terrify.")
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the stupidity of the question leads me to believe they are trying to find a way to indict

In other words, if the judge says "No - the govt does not have to prove it is impossible" then they will say "OK then we can indict him"


7 posted on 03/05/2007 10:22:30 AM PST by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help)
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Sounds like the jury has created more reasonable doubt than the prosecutor and defense!


8 posted on 03/05/2007 10:23:41 AM PST by TommyDale (What will Rudy do in the War on Terror? Implement gun control on insurgents and Al Qaeda?)
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Indict? He's already been indicted... thus the trial.


9 posted on 03/05/2007 10:23:48 AM PST by LIConFem
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To: TSchmereL

The fix is in.


10 posted on 03/05/2007 10:23:59 AM PST by CPT Clay (Drill ANWR, Personal Accounts NOW.)
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To: Mr. K

In other words, if the judge says "No - the govt does not have to prove it is impossible" then they will say "OK then we can indict him"
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I think you mean "convict him."


11 posted on 03/05/2007 10:24:54 AM PST by snarkytart
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Sounds like a split jury and the ones opting for acquittal are looking for ammo to convince the holdouts. At least that's my optimistic take on it.


12 posted on 03/05/2007 10:26:30 AM PST by saganite
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What's difficult is that the jury is trying to find an excuse to not excuse Libby's lack of recall while ignoring all the testimony about everyone else's lack of recall.

Only Libby is not allowed to forget.

-PJ

13 posted on 03/05/2007 10:27:23 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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"Specifically, is it necessary for the government to present evidence that it is not humanly possible for someone not to recall an event in order to find guilt beyond a reasonable doubt."

Translation: "The government's case is that Mr. Libby could not possibly have forgotten something he once said to some reporter. We want to convict him anyway, but there is one right-wing conspirator on the jury who won't let us."

14 posted on 03/05/2007 10:27:38 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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Perhaps jury lunches in D.C. are better than we thought! :)


15 posted on 03/05/2007 10:28:05 AM PST by the_Watchman
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Sounds as if they already have doubt or they would be asking if it's reasonable. The judge should ask the Jury if they consider themselves to be unreasonable.


16 posted on 03/05/2007 10:30:10 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: CPT Clay

I have not heard anything about a fix.


17 posted on 03/05/2007 10:33:09 AM PST by TSchmereL ("Rust but terrify.")
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These jurors must have been educated in the public school system. There next question will probably be "do we get to keep eating lunches and dinners on the public dole as long as we wonder what 'resonable' is?


18 posted on 03/05/2007 10:44:00 AM PST by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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Sounds like a hung jury in the making to me. I sure hope that no one is browbeaten into voting 'guilty' just to get the heck home.


19 posted on 03/05/2007 10:45:32 AM PST by Al Simmons (Thou Shalt Speak No Ill of Another Republican - Ronald Wilson Reagan's 11th Commandment)
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"That may or may not be good for Libby."

Can you think of anything about the case that "may or may not be good for Libby".......?? :^)
20 posted on 03/05/2007 10:47:16 AM PST by Enchante (Chamberlain Democrats embraced by terrorists and America-haters worldwide!!)
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