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New York Times and the Zumbo Incident (Freerepublic mentioned)
The Outdoor Wire ^ | 3/5/2007 | Jim Shepherd

Posted on 03/05/2007 9:08:35 AM PST by girlangler

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1 posted on 03/05/2007 9:08:37 AM PST by girlangler
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To: Joe Brower; proud_yank; bang


2 posted on 03/05/2007 9:09:30 AM PST by girlangler (Fish Fear Me)
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To: girlangler

see:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1794677/posts


3 posted on 03/05/2007 9:12:54 AM PST by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: girlangler
"the assault rifle. After all, it "is generally understood to be the kind of gun that soldiers use in wars and terrorists use on the evening news."

If only that bolded part were true...

And in related news: I joined the NRA, finally, on Sunday at our local gun show. I am very proud of my new membership. When hubby gets home in the fall, we will be gun-shopping for sure.
4 posted on 03/05/2007 9:15:26 AM PST by USMCWife6869 (Godspeed Sand Sharks.)
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To: girlangler
the times says "postings on gun discussion boards like ar15.com and freerepublic.com speak for themselves."

Why do we have so many political discussions clogging up our "gun discussion board"?

5 posted on 03/05/2007 9:16:34 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Samoans: The (low) wage slaves in the Pelosi-Starkist complex.)
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To: girlangler

A few here have attacked the treatment of zumbo, saying "he apologized and you still kept after him". His first apology was not much more than an excuse: "I was tired after a long day of hunting" - using the odd reasoning that he wouldn't utter soundbites that the brady bunch could use if he had 8 hours of sleep. Funny, on several occassionas I have gone for a couple days without sleep and not once did I refer to an ar-15 as a "terrorist rifle".

Hopefully zumbo will enjoy his involuntary retirement.


6 posted on 03/05/2007 9:17:48 AM PST by flashbunny (<--- Free Anti-Rino graphics! See Rudy the Rino get exposed as a liberal with his own words!)
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To: KarlInOhio

This is neither a political board or a gun discussion board. It's a board for the discussion of anna nicole smith.


7 posted on 03/05/2007 9:18:45 AM PST by flashbunny (<--- Free Anti-Rino graphics! See Rudy the Rino get exposed as a liberal with his own words!)
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To: girlangler
"postings on gun discussion boards like ar15.com and freerepublic.com speak for themselves."

Silly me - I didn't know Free Republic was a gun discussion board.
8 posted on 03/05/2007 9:19:03 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (Have patience with me Jesus - I'm trying)
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Some of you believe this whole sad episode has been blown completely out of proportion.

Not a chance. I've been following this from the start. What Zumbo wrote was totally uncalled for and needed a public response. Zumbo's first two apologies were so lame they just added fuel to the fire. The third apology was a good start, but didn't go far enough.

9 posted on 03/05/2007 9:21:20 AM PST by AlaskaErik (Everyone should have a subject they are ignorant about. I choose professional corporate sports.)
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His "apology" indicated no awareness whatsoever of the 2nd. Hence the keeping after him.


10 posted on 03/05/2007 9:21:51 AM PST by coloradan (Failing to protect the liberties of your enemies establishes precedents that will reach to yourself.)
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To: USMCWife6869

Thought the terrorists mostly used IEDs.


11 posted on 03/05/2007 9:21:53 AM PST by SouthTexas (It's race time again!)
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To: girlangler
Some of you believe this whole sad episode has been blown completely out of proportion.

Not a chance. I've been following this from the start. What Zumbo wrote was totally uncalled for and needed a public response. Zumbo's first two apologies were so lame they just added fuel to the fire. The third apology was a good start, but didn't go far enough.

For those of you who haven't been following the story, Zumbo's blog calling AR/AK type weapons terrorist weapons ignited a firestorm that quickly cost him his job and all his sponsors. I can only hope that the anti-gun politicians take heed after seeing what happened to Zumbo.

12 posted on 03/05/2007 9:23:07 AM PST by AlaskaErik (Everyone should have a subject they are ignorant about. I choose professional corporate sports.)
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Assault Rifles are not sold to the US public.

Only the military and those who have a Class III Dealers License from the ATF can purchase or possess assault rifles.

Some rifles sold to the US public and citizens are semi-automatic rifles that look like assault rifles, but are basically the same as any semi-automatic rifle on the market, in hunting or para-military configuration.

I wish these New York Times writers would get things straight. They reveal how novice they are in the world of fire arms usage.This tends to make NRA members shoot first. Ignorance is the worst enemy.

I bet New York Times writers put almost no range time in during the last year, and write with very little experience.

So how does the writer know what questions to ask , or even write about the issue? Its just propaganda. Propaganda makes people "shoot first" as well it should.

Zumbo is a Dumbo.

13 posted on 03/05/2007 9:25:29 AM PST by Candor7
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To: girlangler
I think the "Zumbo effect" was more intense because we gun owners know that at the moment it looks likely that the Republican candidate will be someone who is perfectly happy to ban civilian firearm ownership.

All the more reason we should all be ready to support any real conservative who looks like they are going to give Rudy a run for it.

14 posted on 03/05/2007 9:27:50 AM PST by tcostell (MOLON LABE)
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Hmmmm Identifying with Bambi-esque animated
characters.....I guess that would mean
that Senator Levin would be Grandpa
Beaver, expounding his sagacious wisdom
to the collected Beaver clan, that the
best option is for all the beavers to
run in different directions, because the
mean old human hunters couldn't possibly
find *everybody*....


15 posted on 03/05/2007 9:32:23 AM PST by NickatNite2003 (From the Man from Hope" to the wife who snarls "Abandon All Hope!")
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To: girlangler

Our farmers commonly shoot ground squirrels. Sometimes they pay local kids a bounty. Their burrows are an extreme hazard to large farm equipment and can cause death and injury to the driver who's machine turns over because of unsteady ground. In an area where there is nothing but farmland for miles and miles, a good rifle can allow you to exterminate the vermin from a distance. It is less harmful to the environment than chemical poisons. City people just don't understand.


16 posted on 03/05/2007 9:42:54 AM PST by marsh2
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To: girlangler

Zumbo was ridiculed (rightly so) here on FR because he implied a belief that hunting was the main reason for the 2nd amendment, not protection from government.


17 posted on 03/05/2007 9:43:32 AM PST by Niteranger68 (Point your toilets towards Mecca!)
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To: RacerF150

He didn't mention the 2nd at all. To him, it was all about hunting, and nothing else.


18 posted on 03/05/2007 9:47:32 AM PST by coloradan (Failing to protect the liberties of your enemies establishes precedents that will reach to yourself.)
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To: Candor7
I bet New York Times writers put almost no range time in during the last year...

I'd bet the only experience any of them have with a range is free-range chicken.

19 posted on 03/05/2007 9:48:25 AM PST by andy58-in-nh
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To: RacerF150
Personal gun ownership first became a right of the common man toward the end of the Religious Wars in France in the 1500s.

Huguenots (the Protestant faction) came to understand that their right to free exercise of religion depended on keeping their guns, so they did.

It took Catholics a bit longer to realize that, but eventually even they came around.

An armed populace is polite to the other guys even if nothing else.

I'm sure we can convert Giuliani to the correct paths with suitible inducements. Otherwise, that bad boy has run for his last office as a Republican.

20 posted on 03/05/2007 9:50:42 AM PST by muawiyah
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