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That Film’s Real Message? It Could Be: ‘Buy a Ticket’ (Liberals upset about 300 movie)
New York Slimes ^ | 3/5/2007 | MICHAEL CIEPLY

Posted on 03/05/2007 8:57:24 AM PST by Proud_USA_Republican

LOS ANGELES, March 4 — Three weeks ago a handful of reporters at an international press junket here for the Warner Brothers movie “300,” about the battle of Thermopylae some 2,500 years ago, cornered the director Zack Snyder with an unanticipated question.

“Is George Bush Leonidas or Xerxes?” one of them asked.

The questioner, by Mr. Snyder’s recollection, insisted that Mr. Bush was Xerxes, the Persian emperor who led his force against Greek’s city states in 480 B.C., unleashing an army on a small country guarded by fanatical guerilla fighters so he could finish a job his father had left undone. More likely, another reporter chimed in, Mr. Bush was Leonidas, the Spartan king who would defend freedom at any cost.

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To: Junior

In the graphic novel and movie, Sparta is painted as a proto-democracy.

Yeah, I know, I know.....


101 posted on 03/05/2007 10:45:13 AM PST by FormerACLUmember
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To: stuartcr
Totally off topic, but I love this image.

Molon Labe = "Come and get them" (The 300 Spartans chant to the Iranians demands to throw down their arms.)


102 posted on 03/05/2007 10:51:44 AM PST by FormerACLUmember
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To: Red Badger

And for that I blame Bush!


103 posted on 03/05/2007 10:52:23 AM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed less people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: stuartcr

The original barbarians were just non-Greeks. The word meant nothing about their state of civilization.


104 posted on 03/05/2007 10:52:50 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Defeat Hillary's V'assed Left Wing Conspiracy)
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To: PUGACHEV
Steven Pressfield's novel "Gates of Fire" is the book that should have been the one they based a movie about Thermopolae on. Your quote is best appreciated after reading that.

I pray that, ala "King Kong" remakes, there will be a do-over of this based on GoF, directed by Gibson or Ridley Scott. That said, I'm sure this will be enjoyable.

105 posted on 03/05/2007 10:55:16 AM PST by RedQuill
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To: justshutupandtakeit

Sparta protecting the spoiled liberals of Athens = Bush & the Amerincan left.


106 posted on 03/05/2007 10:56:22 AM PST by fungoking
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To: rintense

squeak!

GB's in this!?!?

I'm goin'. (no where'd I put my mini-fan)


107 posted on 03/05/2007 10:56:50 AM PST by najida (One day, a door opens, and you get a chance to start over. But the phone rings......)
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To: Proud_USA_Republican
If by Pro-Bush propaganda, they mean a leader who defends his country at the cost of his own life. True, Sparta was not a bastion of democracy, they were however, Greeks and that's why they fought, to defend Greece against the mighty Persian Empire under Xerxes the Great.

But seriously, this is going to be a kickass, fun movie about real men willingly going to their deaths to save not only Sparta, but the entire Hellenic world and if the Leftists can't sit down and enjoy (I don't know if it's the unbridled masculinity or the nationalism that offends them more) then they need to shut up and the GTFO of the theater.

108 posted on 03/05/2007 10:57:14 AM PST by Quick or Dead (Both oligarch and tyrant mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of their arms - Aristotle)
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To: WV Mountain Mama

Oh yeah,
Gladiator, on of my favorites.
Shirtless RC. No sound on (who needs it?)


109 posted on 03/05/2007 11:00:33 AM PST by najida (One day, a door opens, and you get a chance to start over. But the phone rings......)
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To: RayStacy
heavy infantry combat -- that was a Spartan

Unfortunately the following photo is an imposter, he is in no way related.........

Just a football wannabe.......

110 posted on 03/05/2007 11:01:50 AM PST by Hot Tabasco
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To: Proud_USA_Republican
Have you seen the preview?
It is a homo-erotic acid trip.

They have Spartan soldiers without armor! Hopalites without armor is downright silly. It was only because they were heavily armed that they could hold the pass.
The bit about "Freedom" is a joke. Athens was an illiberal democracy. Sparta was a state built on permanent war. All Spartans males served the state as soldiers and the agraculture was taken care of by fellow Lacadonians who they had conquered and enslaved. The Spartans made periodic war on these "Helots" to justify the slavery in bloddy acts of subjugation.

111 posted on 03/05/2007 11:02:53 AM PST by rmlew (It's WW4 and the Left wants to negotiate with Islamists who want to kill us , for their mutual ends)
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To: BuffaloJack
These people want to sell tickets, not exclude half the audience with a political agenda.

You must remember that movies are (for the most part) made in Hollywierd where a left wing political agenda permeates everything they do.

It is expected in this day and age that every movie coming out of Hollywierd will have a political message. Most of the time it will be subtle, almost subliminal, you have to be looking for it to find the message.

The reporters know this and so they asked the question. Which come to think of it is kind of a mistake on their part. To bring attention to the message too soon lessens the effect. I am sure they will hear about it from their editors.

112 posted on 03/05/2007 11:03:28 AM PST by Pontiac (Patriotism is the natural consequence of having a free mind in a free society.)
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To: Roses0508

There was music in Gladiator?


113 posted on 03/05/2007 11:03:42 AM PST by najida (One day, a door opens, and you get a chance to start over. But the phone rings......)
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To: Proud_USA_Republican

Neither ancient personality fits Bush. Unlike Leonidas, he's attacking, not defending. Unlike Xerxes, he's interested in building something constructive, not just sacking and pillaging. Furthermore, Xerxes' opponents were brave men fighting to defend their homes. Bush's opponents are a hodge podge of foreign ideologically driven mercenaries and remnants of a deposed regime, who don't give a damn for the Iraqi people they're "defending" using the most cowardly, heinous means at their disposal.

If anything, he's like Alexander, aspiring to spread the ideals of Western civilization and reach a reconciliation-by-conquest between East and West. Like Alexander, many hate him and somebody will probably kill him for that aspiration, which will likely be left unfulfilled. Unlike Alexander, he's not bi, doesn't march into battle in front of his men, and can no longer die young.


114 posted on 03/05/2007 11:07:02 AM PST by Eleutheria5
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To: Proud_USA_Republican

My son has been looking forward to seeing this movie for a couple of months.


115 posted on 03/05/2007 11:12:04 AM PST by submarinerswife
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To: Proud_USA_Republican

One thing for sure, Frank Miller is no moonbat....

Must listen to interview.........

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=24146_Batman_Artist_No_Moonbat&only


116 posted on 03/05/2007 11:23:39 AM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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To: FormerACLUmember

"Hence it refers to the US military and the Republican Party. Defending civilization against the onslaught of IslamoFascism and democrat party traitors."

In a shocker, I found recently that Genghis Khan and his horde originally got their panties in a bunch because of those same Islamo Fascists (some were Nastorian Christians being victimized). Only later did the Mongol Horde get taken over by Muslims.


117 posted on 03/05/2007 11:25:40 AM PST by FastCoyote
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To: Proud_USA_Republican

That is really great! The last time I heard of a German audience walking out was "Red Dawn." I consider that to be the highest recommendation possible!


118 posted on 03/05/2007 11:27:44 AM PST by Belasarius (Yet man is born unto trouble, as the sparks fly upward. Job 5:2-7)
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To: fungoking

Athens was hardly "spoiled liberals". It fought the Persians on the sea and the city itself was sacked by the Persians. Sparta eventually wound up making a deal with the Persians against Athens.

Athens was one of the chief creators of Western Civilization through its philosophers, historians, dramatists and artists. Sparta created NOTHING of value to our heritage. It was FAR closer to Communism than anything else in Greece. It was poor, xenophobic and totally reactionary. There was nothing admirable about Sparta other than its army. Living in Sparta must have been sheer misery (rather like North Korea or Stalinist USSR) while living in Athens must have been like a dream in comparison.


119 posted on 03/05/2007 11:30:28 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Defeat Hillary's V'assed Left Wing Conspiracy)
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To: daisyscarlett; alwaysconservative

Butler/300 ping to a couple who might enjoy this disucssion (and pix?)...:-)

"reel" FReeper thread -

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1793493/posts?page=1


120 posted on 03/05/2007 11:30:44 AM PST by DollyCali (Don't tell GOD how big your storm is -- Tell the storm how B-I-G your God is!)
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