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Texans fear US sovereignty will disappear down superhighway
Telegraph ^ | 04 March 2007 | James Langton

Posted on 03/05/2007 7:30:35 AM PST by FLOutdoorsman

If it were built, the road would be one of the engineering wonders of the 21st century -a trade route a quarter of a mile wide, carving a path from Mexico through the heart of America to Canada.

In its most radical form, it would allow lorry drivers to travel hundreds of miles from the Mexican border deep into the US before reaching customs and immigration controls in Kansas.

Backers of the idea, labelled the "Nafta Superhighway", after the North American trade pact, say it would revolutionise patterns of commerce across the continent and enhance the economic prospects of millions. But its critics say it could spell the end of US sovereignty. In arguments akin to those deployed by critics of the European Union, opponents say that opening borders will hit businesses, create a terrorist threat and allow illegal immigrants and drugs to flood in.

Opposition is strongest in Texas, where the state's plans for a vast road project, known as the Trans-Texas Corridor, are well advanced. Once complete, the corridor could become the first leg of a Nafta Superhighway, crossing the Mexican border at the Rio Grande, near Laredo, and then pushing north to Kansas. It would include a toll road with 10 lorry and car lanes, a high-speed railway, and oil, gas and water pipelines.

With costs estimated at $183 billion (£94 billion), the 1,200 ft wide road would consume one million acres in Texas alone. Construction could take up to 50 years.

Many of those fighting the project are conservative farmers who would normally be supporters of President George W Bush but who are suspicious of his support for more free trade. At a meeting in the Texas town of Temple last week, more than 100 people gathered to hear news from Corridor Watch, a group fighting the road.

At a community hall built by Slovak immigrants nearly a century ago, many of the men wore cowboy hats, while their wives arrived with casseroles to sustain the gathering. Despite bowing heads for the Pledge of Allegiance, the meeting expressed anger at what the road would mean.

Hank Gilbert, a rancher, said: "At the Battle of the Alamo people came from all over the US to fight for our sovereignty. Now we are giving it away to the very people we fought." Like many protesters, he believes the link will make it easier for cheap goods to flood into the US. "Farmers fear that this kind of globalisation will put them out of business," he said.

In Texas, the superhighway would be so wide that critics say it would be too expensive to construct overpasses except in the cities, severing tight-knit rural communities.

The superhighway is being promoted by a pressure group, the North America's Supercorridor Coalition, which includes business leaders, trade groups and government officials from Canada, Mexico and the US.

However, officials of the federal government in Washington deny that there is any transnational plan. A member of the Department of Transport told a congressional committee this month that all the government wanted to was improve existing roads.

Many conservatives disagree. They link the highway to agreements being negotiated behind closed doors between the Mexican, American and Canadian governments that they believe will transform the North American Free Trade Association into an EU-style superstate. They point to an agreement signed by Mr Bush, Vicente Fox, then president of Mexico, and Paul Martin, then Canada's prime minister, in Waco, Texas, in March 2005.

The Security and Prosperity Partnership is intended to promote co-operation on security and boost economic opportunities. But it set alarm bells ringing on the Right because it formed working parties that fall outside the control of Congress.

Republican Ron Paul, a Texas congressman, says it is part of a drive for "an integrated North American Union" - complete with a currency, a cross-national bureaucracy and borderless travel. "It would represent another step toward the abolition of national sovereignty," he said.


TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: cuespookymusic; morethorazineplease; sovereignty; superhighway; texas; transtexascorridor; transtinfoilcorridor; ttc
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To: Domicile of Doom
My criticisms were related to the lack of customs inspections of incoming cargo at the border, and a high speed rail system that would never pay for itself.

I'm not against expanding the highway system where it's needed.

I'm not against free trade.

I've got an idea - ban guns because by your reasoning they cause crime.

Could you explain what in my previous post you are referring to with this comment. I think at least one of us is confused.

41 posted on 03/05/2007 12:24:23 PM PST by untrained skeptic
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To: untrained skeptic

The high speed rail would pay for itself. Really I don't care if it does or not. MAGLEV NOW!!!! I want to drive my car onto a maglev car and be zipped to Dallas in 30 minutes from Houston.

Are we going to just close down all commerce and development thereof because of illegals? I don't like illegals anymore than the next guy, but we can't stop every faction of our society because they are coming here regardless of what we do to stop them.


42 posted on 03/05/2007 1:12:31 PM PST by Domicile of Doom
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To: Paleo Conservative

What a dumbass this reporter is.



I don't know about that title but he certainly is a lazy misinformed spreader of distorted information. I don't even think the article is worthy of refutation.....


43 posted on 03/05/2007 1:37:58 PM PST by deport ( Cue Spooky Music...)
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To: Domicile of Doom
The high speed rail would pay for itself.

You mean like Amtrak pays for itself? Oh wait, it constantly loses money and has to be subsidized by taxpayers.

While the desire to be able to travel long distances over a short period of time, without having to actively drive a vehicle is understandable. Passenger rail systems just haven't proven cost effective except over short runs in highly populated areas, and even then only when the routes are chosen carefully.

Really I don't care if it does or not. MAGLEV NOW!!!!

From our past experience with passenger rail systems, this is not just likely to lose money, it's likely to lose hundreds of millions of dollars a year after costing billions to construct.

Who do you think should pay for that, and what do you suggest justifies them having to pay for it?

Are we going to just close down all commerce and development thereof because of illegals?

I mentioned the need for customs at the border. I never even mentioned illegal immigration, though that is obviously PART of the problem with having customers in Kansas.

Are you suggesting we should do away with customs inspections all together? What practial benefit is there to having customs in Kansas as opposed to having it on the border.

Having customs officials at an airport that has a lot of international travel to a specific country makes sense. It allows you to deal with possible problems before you reach the destination. I've gone through US customs in Ottowa when flying back to the US, and it worked very well.

However, having US customs in Kansas rather than at the border makes no sense. It doesn't provide a benefit to legitimate trade, since such trade still needs to pass through customs at some point. It instead extends our border the length of the highway until customs has been reached. This extends the distance into our country in which someone could smuggle weapons before they are inspected, making it possible for someone to bring a WMD into highly populated areas without ever having to face inspection by customs.

I don't like illegals anymore than the next guy, but we can't stop every faction of our society because they are coming here regardless of what we do to stop them.

If illegal immigration were not an issue, the reasons I said I would oppose building a highway as described in this article are still completely valid.

You are the one that keeps brining up illegal immigration, not me.

I'm still waiting for your explanation as to how my comments correlate to your comment of "I've got an idea - ban guns because by your reasoning they cause crime".

From what I'm seeing, rational thought isn't one of your strong points.

44 posted on 03/05/2007 2:15:44 PM PST by untrained skeptic
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To: untrained skeptic

MAGLEV NOW!!!!


45 posted on 03/05/2007 2:28:51 PM PST by Domicile of Doom
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To: untrained skeptic
This story about freight not being inspected until it reaches KC is bs that has been shot down over and over and over.
46 posted on 03/05/2007 2:36:24 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin
This story about freight not being inspected until it reaches KC is bs that has been shot down over and over and over.

Yea, as I stated in my first post I was highly skeptical of the article's credibility.

It reads like a lot of the typical dishonestly portrayed anti-globalization crap that is intended to fire people up but has little basis in fact.

Since such people obviously treat their readers like they are too stupid to make intelligent decisions if the are simply provided with the facts, it makes me wonder what kind of people eat this crap up.

47 posted on 03/05/2007 4:59:33 PM PST by untrained skeptic
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To: Domicile of Doom
Well, Maglev trains are more environmentally friendly and energy efficient that transporting people by conventional train or bus, and faster too.

They are just obscenely expensive to build.

However, construction costs may drop as the technology gets developed further, but I still think that you're going to have to optimistically wait a decade or more before they come close to being practical even in a limited role.

With the population growth Texas has been seeing, passenger rail systems might be practical by then as well.

48 posted on 03/05/2007 5:10:28 PM PST by untrained skeptic
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If you have an interest, you can find more info on FAST, Free and Secure Trade. This is the program by which freight recieves a secure status at its origin which enables it to cross the border more quickly via FAST Lanes.

There are numerous FAST lanes for northbound traffic, but none for southbound. Placing a Mexican customs agent in KC, or any other place, would allow southbound freight to be pre-inspected there and enable it to cross the border quicker.

49 posted on 03/05/2007 5:31:13 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: untrained skeptic

There see, that wasn't so hard, was it?

MAGLEV NOW!!!


50 posted on 03/06/2007 5:45:58 AM PST by Domicile of Doom
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