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American home-loan defaults spread to lower-risk borrowers
Times Online ^ | March 5, 2007 | Tom Bawden

Posted on 03/05/2007 6:29:06 AM PST by RobRoy

America’s mortgage woes are spreading from home loans made to high-risk borrowers to encompass medium-risk recipients too, with potentially far-reaching consequences for US homeowners and their lenders.

Problems with risky sub-prime mortgages have been a focus for lenders, particularly HSBC, which is expected to write off about $11 billion (£5.6 billion) — much of it relating to this area — when it reports its annual results today.

However, lenders in the US face a new threat as defaults on the fast-growing “Alt-A” mortgages, medium-risk policies that stand between sub-prime and prime loans in the credit rankings, are also on the rise.

They have doubled to about 2 per cent in the past year, while 5 per cent of the two million such mortgages issued in 2006 will eventually end in foreclosure, according to David Liu, a mortgage analyst in UBS.

HSBC, Europe’s largest bank, is facing a crisis in its US sub-prime business and this has triggered a cull in the division’s senior management. Rising bad debts forced HSBC to issue its first profit warning in the run-up to its results announcement.

However, HSBC is also a lender in the “Alt-A”, or near-prime market, and while the bank played down the impact of its exposure in that area, the spectre of deteriorating credit quality across more of the US market is likely to be unsettling.

Federal regulators have become so concerned with the state of the sub-prime market — in which a fifth of mortgages issued in 2005 and 2006 are expected to end in repossession — that they are preparing to clamp down on home-loan providers’ lending policies.

The value of new Alt-A mortgages issued reached $400 billion in 2006, compared with just $85 billion in 2003, according to Inside Mortgage Finance. Mr Liu said: “The issues with sub-prime mortgages are clearly spreading and will cause particular problems for the investment banks whose involvement in higher-risk loans has become increasingly significant in recent years.”

As well as lending mortgage providers’ money to issue new home loans, investment banks such as Goldman Sachs, Credit Suisse and Bear Stearns often buy existing mortgages and package them as bonds backed by their interest payments.

The banks could potentially make huge losses on the loans they have made as well as the mortgage-backed bonds they have underwritten as the number of defaults jumps.

Adam Compton, analyst with RCM Investors, said that prime mortgages are far safer because they are made to clients with higher credit ratings and they require proof of income. He said: “The danger is that increasingly lax lending practices on sub-prime and Alt-A mortgages of the last two to three years has led to an artificial demand that could lead to an increase in losses among prime mortgages as well.”

By lending to people who could not really afford repayments, mortgage providers lift prices across the market, Mr Compton says. So, an expected fall in the value of cheaper properties as defaults on risky loans surge will drag down costlier houses’ prices. This will make it harder for borrowers to keep up payments by refinancing mortgages if they lose their job.


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: bubble; forclosures; mortgage
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As has been pointed out before, this isn't just about sub-prime mortgages. A telling statement here: "HSBC, Europe’s largest bank, is facing a crisis in its US sub-prime business and this has triggered a cull in the division’s senior management."

It grows.

1 posted on 03/05/2007 6:29:07 AM PST by RobRoy
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To: ex-Texan; Hydroshock; GodGunsGuts

ping


2 posted on 03/05/2007 6:29:45 AM PST by RobRoy
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To: RobRoy

The US economy is afloat in a sea of cheap loans. Cheap liquitity is the only thing keeping it going. And the sea is starting to drain. Wages for many have not being going up as fast as real inflation, they have been borrowing to get their lifestyles. But the lenders are pulling back. The train wreck cometh.


3 posted on 03/05/2007 6:34:14 AM PST by Hydroshock (Duncan Hunter For President, checkout gohunter08.com.)
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To: RobRoy
I'm no expert in finance, but when I see a speculative boom such as the recent real estate bonanza, or the dot com boom before that, I can't help but think of the historical precedent of the gold rushes, where hordes of prospectors went bust, and the folks around the periphery (saloons, hookers, Levi Straus, etc.) made money.

The real estate market didn't grow at a healthy pace, it just exploded with no way to sustain it. Fortunately, I and my family are all in it for the long term and had bought before the boom.

4 posted on 03/05/2007 6:39:07 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (] Tagline Under Construction [)
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To: RobRoy
"As has been pointed out before, this isn't just about sub-prime mortgages. A telling statement here: "HSBC, Europe’s largest bank, is facing a crisis in its US sub-prime business and this has triggered a cull in the division’s senior management."

But so far it IS only about sub prime mortgages. Not a shred of evidence to support it spreading. All we see are phrases such as "possibly", "maybe", "could be","indications are". That said the assumption that every sub prime and Alt-A mortgage will go bad is patently absurd. Even this article says the default rate has DOUBLED (sounds bad, right?) but that doubling brings it to a not so alarming 2%. It has been said that the sub prime market is about 5-7% of all mortgages and the most pessimistic say that upwards of 30% "could" become non performing. Well, 30% of 7% is still only 2.1% of the sub prime loans. Frankly, instead of jumping on the "the sky is falling" band wagon I'll simply wait for some ACTUAL NUMBERS rather then going with baseless speculative opining by people looking for face time on TV.

5 posted on 03/05/2007 6:40:01 AM PST by Eagles Talon IV
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To: Hydroshock
The train wreck cometh.

My income is on an upward spiral. I just might be able to buy discount scrap metal from that train wreck, so to speak.

6 posted on 03/05/2007 6:40:51 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (] Tagline Under Construction [)
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To: Jeff Chandler

I am in the same boat, my wife and I are talking about looking for a new house next year. My only concern is selling my existing home to get the equity out. If the market is way down it might be dicy.


7 posted on 03/05/2007 6:43:40 AM PST by Hydroshock (Duncan Hunter For President, checkout gohunter08.com.)
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To: RobRoy

I wonder how much of this problem can be laid to eager reassessment of properties and the resulting tax burden? My house payment has gone up $75.00 in two years for taxes, and I just got a reassessment notice stuck in my door. At this rate in 10 years it will surpass Principal + interest.


8 posted on 03/05/2007 6:44:24 AM PST by steve8714
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To: Eagles Talon IV

You crack me up. You remind me of the guys early last summer that said things are not dropping.

You are right. It is not that bad - yet. But wait! The bank fired Sr. management over this. Maybe they know something you don't.

As before, you are like the man falling off a 20 story building and saying, as he passes the 3rd floor, "so far, so good". Except a reasonable person watches the events, understands gravity and knows the guy is three floors from having no opinion whatsoever.

IOW, this is the next phase, jus beginning. And even then, only one of many fronts, one of which seems to be the stock market itself.


9 posted on 03/05/2007 6:45:28 AM PST by RobRoy
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To: Eagles Talon IV

Those are good points. Do you believe the numbers are high enough to at least prompt a correction in the marketplace? Enough to "cool" it off so they stop lending shaky money?


10 posted on 03/05/2007 6:45:46 AM PST by Domicile of Doom
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To: Hydroshock
We're staying put in this old house. The old folks live in an attached house and I wouldn't dream of upsetting their lives.

I'm investing every thing I've got into my business. It's growing at a rate no real estate could sustain.

11 posted on 03/05/2007 6:46:12 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (] Tagline Under Construction [)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Many people made money during the crashes of 1929 and 2000.


12 posted on 03/05/2007 6:46:22 AM PST by RobRoy
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To: Eagles Talon IV
That said the assumption that every sub prime and Alt-A mortgage will go bad is patently absurd.

They won't all go bad, but a whole lot of those people took out those mortgages fully intending to refinance in a couple of years when the rate resets. If similar mortgage products are no longer available and those people are faced with mortgage payment jumps of 100% or more, what do you think is going to happen?

I'll tell you what I think is going to happen - the Omnibus Federal Home Loan Relief Act of 2009, signed into law by President Clinton, where the Federal Government spends another trillion dollars to subsidize mortgage payments for our "most vulnerable citizens"...yes, the same idiots who overextended themselves will get a bailout. ;)

13 posted on 03/05/2007 6:47:33 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: RobRoy
Many people made money during the crashes of 1929 and 2000.

Indeed. I've been scraping and scratching to keep afloat my entire adult life (and loving every minute of it!), and this is the first time I may actually be poised to take advantage of conditions.

14 posted on 03/05/2007 6:48:36 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (] Tagline Under Construction [)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Do you think this relief act is the reason for the boom and the cheap money the past couple of years?


15 posted on 03/05/2007 6:53:32 AM PST by Domicile of Doom
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To: steve8714

Yet your price of housing (including taxes) is not included in inflation figures. ;)

We have been in MASSIVE tax inflation the last ten years. People wonder where all their money is going. It is going to the government. We are closer to slaves than we realize. Between working, commuting and sleeping, there is very little time left to actually enjoy anything. We are becoming a nation of slaves to the culture and consumerism - destined to produce and consume, taxed all the way.

Government fodder.


16 posted on 03/05/2007 6:57:17 AM PST by RobRoy
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Wouldn't be surprising -- the dangers of moral hazard, really.


17 posted on 03/05/2007 6:58:25 AM PST by Mr J (All IMHO.)
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To: Eagles Talon IV

Even in subprime mortgages, it's not the worst it's ever been - just the worst in the last few years, and the last few years were pretty good.


18 posted on 03/05/2007 6:58:48 AM PST by RockinRight (My wish for Islam - The Glass Parking Lot Formerly Known As The Middle East.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

I want to know what rate of failure is built into the subprime model. 20% doesn't sound high to me. That or more is probably expected. That's why the interest rates are higher. Also, my son had an amazing no down payment ARM, but he refinanced about 2 years ago. Lots of people have adjusted.


19 posted on 03/05/2007 6:59:29 AM PST by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: Domicile of Doom

Already happening. Subprime lenders have tightened their guidelines to something similar to about 8 years ago before the last boom got started. Which IMHO is a healthy level. Subprime lending will, and should, exist - but it got too aggressive.


20 posted on 03/05/2007 7:00:10 AM PST by RockinRight (My wish for Islam - The Glass Parking Lot Formerly Known As The Middle East.)
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