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Black Reparations: From Whom? To Whom?
United American Committee ^ | March 5th 2007 | United American Committee

Posted on 03/04/2007 10:46:48 PM PST by CaliFReeper1

BLACK REPARATIONS: FROM WHOM? TO WHOM?
By the United American Committee | March 5th 2007


Researchers have reportedly found evidence that the ancestors of Al Sharpton may have been owned by the ancestors of Democrat-turned Dixiecrat-turned Republican Strom Thurmond. This is an interesting, albeit ironic, possibility.

We are now hearing demands from descendants of West African Americanized slaves claiming reparations. Who should be responsible for paying those reparations? And who should receive them? First, what about an American Black U.S. citizen who is not a descendant from American slaves, such as Barak Obama, or others who immigrated to the U.S. from other countries? Clearly, they have no stake in this matter. Now, for those who truly are descendants of West Africans who became slaves in America, just where should their demands for reparations be directed?

Let it be said that no living black Americans have been slaves in America. It is also safe to say that no living white Americans owned slaves. In fact there are probably far more living Americans whose ancestors fought and died to end slavery because they found it ugly and absolutely abhorrent. Approximately 700,000 Americans died in the Civil War to bring an end to slavery.

So who is responsible for slavery? Some ill-informed people tend to blame it all on American southern plantation owners and ignore the role of British, Spanish, and Portuguese merchants who bought slaves and transported them to the Americas for resale. Some want to blame it on those middle-men slave merchants and slave ship owners and ignore the role of those who first seized free Africans, dragging them from their homes to be sold to the middle-men.

And just who were those at the bottom of this ugly supply chain? Who seized free men and women and forced them into slavery in the first place? History tells us in almost all cases they were Arab Muslim slavers whose religion, Islam, decreed that the taking of slaves of those they conquered is approved by Allah; A lawful reward for striving to carry out Allah's edict to his believers to force all people and all nations into Islam (submission); a doctrine which still prompts conquest, subjugation, terrorism and slave-taking today.

Some political leaders of former slave states have taken steps to apologize and to try to make some amends for this horrid but now long-abolished-in-America practice. True, without plantation owners there may have been no slave ships sailing to our shores, but as we take a closer look at the history of slavery, we see this interesting truth: it was mostly Arab Muslims who had been actively engaged in the practice of seizing and selling human beings into slavery for centuries. So, the real....the original slavers (and still in the business today) are Muslim slavers who seized and enslaved not only black Africans but also white Europeans, brown Indonesians, and olive-skinned people of India, Persia and the Mid-east.

Al Sharpton's ancestors were in all probability captured and first made slaves by Arab or Black MUSLIMS. Yes, they were eventually bought by plantation owners who needed strong healthy males and females capable of sustained hard work under onerous conditions. Those slaves at least found conditions and the courage within themselves to survive, and even raise children, their descendants now living as free people, some in America.

The same was not so for many millions of slaves of various nationalities who were captured. Often Arab Muslim slavers didn't want to deal with whole men. Eunuchs were more valuable. Many unfortunate victims were often mutilated in a most barbaric and savage manner in castration stations established along the slaver's routes. This practice continues in sub-Sahara Africa to this day. These acts were not clean and surgical. They were performed with dirty knives, and more of the victims died than lived, and still die horribly today, in Mauritania, in the Sudan (Darfur today, and who knows where next) and everywhere in between.

In lieu of reparations, our political, religious, educational, and business leaders need to not only demand, but take real steps to end the vicious ugliness of slavery and human subjugation today and for all times wherever this ugliness takes place.

And our black descendants of American slaves might more appropriately direct their demands for reparations to states of the Muslim world which first seized and enslaved their fore bearers. They might also consider that, had that not happened, they might today be living in an impoverished African nation, and themselves at risk of being enslaved tomorrow.

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This article was authored by the following writers with the United American Committee: Jim Horne, Al Rawley (Commander, USN Ret.), Jesse Petrilla, & Ted Hayes.

The United American Committee is a leading educational group dedicated primarily to awakening the nation to the threats of radical Islam, and works to educate Americans on the nature of Islamic extremism. Its mission is to protect America by fighting the ideological aspects of the War on Terror.
More information on the UAC can be found at www.UnitedAmericanCommittee.org


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: black; islam; uac
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To: CaliFReeper1
Thomas Sowell: Black rednecks and white liberals
TownHall | May 5, 2005 | Thomas Sowell
Slavery was a global institution throughout history, from Old Testament times to the rejection of that institution by Christianity in the Nineteenth Century.

The current movie Amazing Grace treats the life of Wilberforce, the central British politician in the campaign which caused Britain to throw its considerable weight behind the global abolition of slavery.


41 posted on 03/05/2007 10:37:25 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: Jacquerie
She is very good at exposing the falsehoods behind lefty lies.
42 posted on 03/05/2007 2:00:19 PM PST by RunningWolf (2-1 Cav 1975)
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To: Junior
I did not get my thoughts from there.
43 posted on 03/05/2007 2:02:08 PM PST by RunningWolf (2-1 Cav 1975)
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To: Junior
I did not get my thoughts from there.
44 posted on 03/05/2007 2:02:15 PM PST by RunningWolf (2-1 Cav 1975)
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To: CaliFReeper1; coincheck; B4Ranch; ByDesign; RunningWolf; Eddie01; Petronski; cyborg
Dear God in Heaven, I can't see the reasoning of liberals.

Post this same article on another board...and here's his response!

LOL I knew this was somehow going to be turned into blaming blacks and muslims. You can't have a conservative write about race without it.

You're wrong, there are slaveowners currently around to pay off reparations. Corporations are tecnically legal persons, and, thanks to the Republicans, they have more rights than real people. So we find corporations involved in slavery and can find clear sources of reparation money. Who gets the money is a trickier issue. LOL you knew this was going to involve blaming corporations.

Seriously. What the crap?

45 posted on 03/05/2007 8:16:02 PM PST by Ultra Sonic 007 (Vote for Duncan Hunter in 2008)
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To: RunningWolf

I don't think about reparations because I'm too busy working for a living. I am not giving anyone anything nor expecting anyone to give me anything. That's my story and I'm sticking to it! :-)


46 posted on 03/05/2007 8:40:54 PM PST by cyborg (No I don't miss the single life at all.)
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To: RunningWolf

opus time?

Honestly Wolf I have no preconceptions regarding you or your politics. I've made no assumptions.

You did not read my responses and you replied with nonsense - pin me down?, getting closer?

I'm sorry about the "idiot" thing, but really all you need to do to participate in the debate is state your position and defend it. If you can't then perhaps you need to reassess your assumptions before recommitting to them.

It is that simple. If you want to post something that furthers the debate and helps answer the questions you have on your "journey", I'm still here.

Eddie01


47 posted on 03/05/2007 8:51:24 PM PST by Eddie01 (please let me know if I missed anything)
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To: cyborg

Bravo! :-)


48 posted on 03/05/2007 9:04:43 PM PST by RunningWolf (2-1 Cav 1975)
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To: Eddie01
I think there was a break in communication. after going back and reading the interchange, I don't really know what your views are yet. It seemed you thought I was black at one point or vice versa.

As far as the issue of reparations goes, I think coming into it is very important to try and get a feel for from what place they come and what they are bringing to the debate. IMO we aren't really there yet.

Also I guess I see it as more than a debate. It is an issue we will have to resolve as a nation sometime, but the debates/dialogs people have now will prepare them for when that time comes.

Regards
49 posted on 03/05/2007 9:46:44 PM PST by RunningWolf (2-1 Cav 1975)
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To: CaliFReeper1
We are now hearing demands from descendants of West African Americanized slaves claiming reparations. Who should be responsible for paying those reparations? And who should receive them? First, what about an American Black U.S. citizen who is not a descendant from American slaves, such as Barak Obama, or others who immigrated to the U.S. from other countries? Clearly, they have no stake in this matter. Now, for those who truly are descendants of West Africans who became slaves in America, just where should their demands for reparations be directed?

It's bad enough that Barak Obama can take advantage of Affirmative Action.

And just who were those at the bottom of this ugly supply chain? Who seized free men and women and forced them into slavery in the first place? History tells us in almost all cases they were Arab Muslim slavers whose religion, Islam, decreed that the taking of slaves of those they conquered is approved by Allah; A lawful reward for striving to carry out Allah's edict to his believers to force all people and all nations into Islam (submission); a doctrine which still prompts conquest, subjugation, terrorism and slave-taking today.

I'm surprised the writer didn't say that it was more likely for Barak Hussein Obama Jr.'s ancestors to have owned/sold slaves than for the ancestors of most white Americans.

I don't believe that "in almost all cases they were Arab Muslim slavers". It maybe true today. As with people all over the world, tribes of Africa would take the defeated as slaves. Many black Africans sold their children into slavery. African chieftains were very upset when whites ended slavery. They loved trading humans for kegs of rum.

50 posted on 03/05/2007 10:07:15 PM PST by Razz Barry (,i)
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