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Giuliani To Appear At Schwarzenegger Conference
NY Post ^ | March 3, 2007 | MAGGIE HABERMAN

Posted on 03/04/2007 7:31:30 PM PST by FairOpinion

Rudy Giuliani will appear at a high-profile press conference with California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger Monday during a two-day jaunt to raise campaign cash on the West Coast.

The former mayor and The Governator are scheduled to discuss gang violence and crime.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; electionpresident; elections; giuliani; gungrabber; rudy; rudy2008; schwarzenegger
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To: CharlesWayneCT

you mean in general election polls? my guess is, right now, they would be the same.

his support would be lower amongst independents (young single women especially), higher amongst the base - a wash.


61 posted on 03/04/2007 8:46:20 PM PST by oceanview
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To: FairOpinion

What's the point of Rudy winning? He's a Dem in RINO clothing.

He was a good sheriff for NY. That doesn't translate into being a good President.

And don't think for one moment that once elected, his Dem/RINO positions won't win out over any "promises" made to conservatives.

Rudy has never, ever supported Republican principles. He's like Mike Bloomberg, only Italian and tougher.

If Rudy and Arnold are meeting together, it must be RINO mating season.




62 posted on 03/04/2007 8:47:00 PM PST by exit82 (Defend our defenders--get off the fence.)
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To: FairOpinion; NormsRevenge

Note also that in January Arnie proposed a state health insurance plan to cover all residents, including illegal aliens (Source: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?sec=health&res=9A0CE6D61530F93AA35752C0A9619C8B63)

He also proposed another sweeping enviromental program to reduce "global warming", another of the schemes to implement an onerous maize of similar "green" regulations.

And the exodus of businesses to more business friendly areas continues along with many of their employees, only to be replaced with multiple cadres of unskilled illegal aliens from south of the border.

P.S. I am in California


63 posted on 03/04/2007 8:47:04 PM PST by gpapa (Boost FR Traffic! Make FR your home page!)
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To: Amerigomag

Well, vote for a Democrat then; see how that works out for you.


64 posted on 03/04/2007 8:47:09 PM PST by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
But we don't need to win 400 electoral votes.

LOL!!! Win...but DON'T WIN TOO BIG!!!

...golly, this is funny!!

65 posted on 03/04/2007 8:49:06 PM PST by paulat (I'd rather vote for someone who CAN ACTUALLY BE ELECTED)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
There isn't a person, below the top tier, now running, nor even one people here HOPE will run, who can win the general election against most of the Dem candidates. And while I doubt that McCain can win the GOP primary, even he would likely have a very difficult time beating the Dem candidate, because he is incapable of winning enough crossover votes.

Hunter is being pushed on FR. Almost NOBODY in the real world even knows his name. He is a complete nonstarter.

Newt? he probably won't run and he can't win the general.

Thompson? If he doesn't get in RIGHT NOW, he won't get anywhere at all. And don't forget how the Dems rolled him, when he rant that Congressional committee.

Tell me who you see as being able to get even a slim majority, in the general, who meets your "Conservative standards".

66 posted on 03/04/2007 8:49:20 PM PST by nopardons
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To: CharlesWayneCT

No, I don't agree with your analysis.


67 posted on 03/04/2007 8:50:36 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Amerigomag

many times, during the 2006 election, this issue came up with regards to Chaffee in Rhode Island. countless times, people posted "why should we support chaffee"?

the answer is: electing Chaffee helps keep senators like Coburn, Kyl, Sessions, and McConnell - in the majority. that's why.

that's the nature of politics in a country that is closely divided.


68 posted on 03/04/2007 8:50:42 PM PST by oceanview
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Well, honestly I don't see any other Republican getting 270 other than Rudy and we have to have 270.


69 posted on 03/04/2007 8:52:07 PM PST by My GOP (Conservatives are pragmatic and realistic!!!)
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To: PhiKapMom

oh it will be that I can assure you....it was fun out here in 2000, 2002, 2003 and 2004....I took 2006 off but will involved on many levels this time! You'll have a blast out here again


70 posted on 03/04/2007 8:52:39 PM PST by texicali (those that can do! Rudy does in spades)
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To: paulat

"LOL!!! Win...but DON'T WIN TOO BIG!!!"

Somebody should have told that to Reagan :)


71 posted on 03/04/2007 8:52:44 PM PST by My GOP (Conservatives are pragmatic and realistic!!!)
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To: My GOP

you know, I was thinking - suppose McCain runs as an independent, and actually wins a few states, so no one gets 270.

what happens? the House elects the president? which House, the outgoing one, or the incoming one?


72 posted on 03/04/2007 8:55:03 PM PST by oceanview
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To: CharlesWayneCT
No and no.

Abortion is NOT a top priority for most American voters.

I think that there is a group here, for who it has suddenly become THE hot button issue, but IF Rudy was THE most rabid anti-abrotion person on the face of the earth, they still would be against him. Some of that has to do with the fact that there are some here who hate everything and anyone who is in anyway connected with N.Y.C.; they also hate/vilify Florida, and California.

73 posted on 03/04/2007 8:57:34 PM PST by nopardons
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To: oceanview

No, that was way too close. But we'd have done fine if Bush could speak clearly and articulately.

If in a year the primaries start up and it truly looks like no other candidate could articulate the conservative message in a way that would resonate with the voters, the question of "electability" might have some merit.

Right now, the goal is to get a good conservative into the "electable" category. Rudy already is way ahead of democrats. We don't need to spend a year building him up. We need to spend a year finding someone who can take his place.

Except for the few people who actually like ALL of Rudy's positions, I don't see why the majority of Rudy supporters can't support pushing conservative candidates out front to see how they do, rather than being so defeatest already to spend their time trying to demoralize the rest of us.

I would note that I spent some time attacking the hunterites who were so completely against Rudy that I thought they were self-destructive. I'm trying to keep options open for the election. But the Rudy people have really pushed me against him with their amorality and pragmatism.


74 posted on 03/04/2007 8:58:08 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: oceanview

The incoming House chooses the President. The House would vote by state delegation, not as individual members. It would take a majority of the state delegations to elect the President. The incoming Senate chooses the VP, Senators would vote individually. The Electoral Votes are officially counted on by Congress on January 6th, 3 days after the new Congress convenes on January 3rd.


75 posted on 03/04/2007 8:59:20 PM PST by My GOP (Conservatives are pragmatic and realistic!!!)
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To: oceanview
what happens? the House elects the president? which House, the outgoing one, or the incoming one?

It seems to me it would be the outgoing...since the incoming would not yet be sworn in.

If There's No Electoral College Winner, the House of Representatives Chooses the President.

In the rare event that no presidential candidate receives a majority of the electoral votes, then the President is chosen instead by the House of Representatives, from the top three presidential vote-getters in the Electoral College; each state delegation in Congress casts one vote. (The Vice-President would be chosen from the top two vice-presidential vote-getters by the Senate.)

http://www.enchantedlearning.com/vote/presidential_elections.shtml

76 posted on 03/04/2007 9:00:46 PM PST by paulat (I'd rather vote for someone who CAN ACTUALLY BE ELECTED)
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To: Howlin
Well, vote for a Democrat then; see how that works out for you.

I'd happily vote for any partisan who is conservative. I won't vote for a partisan who is liberal, be he Republican, Democrat or Independent.

The Democrat Reagan and the Republican Reagan were not that far separated in governing philosophy.

78 posted on 03/04/2007 9:02:01 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: oceanview; My GOP
MY BAD!!! I confused the Congressional swearing-in date with the Presidential inauguration.

Thanks for the proper info!!!

79 posted on 03/04/2007 9:03:24 PM PST by paulat (I'd rather vote for someone who CAN ACTUALLY BE ELECTED)
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To: paulat

"It seems to me it would be the outgoing...since the incoming would not yet be sworn in."

Actually it would be the incoming House. The Electoral Votes are officially counted in front of Congress January 6th, 3 days after the new Congress is sworn in on January 3rd.


80 posted on 03/04/2007 9:03:24 PM PST by My GOP (Conservatives are pragmatic and realistic!!!)
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