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Is It Time For Conservatives To Get Vicious?
America Talks ^ | March 4, 2007 | David Zublick

Posted on 03/04/2007 1:23:17 PM PST by AmericaTalks

Is It Time For Conservatives To Get Vicious?

Two stories have surfaced in recent days which clearly indicate that the definition of what is considered viciousness in politics needs to be examined.

On his HBO program Real Time this past Friday, Bill Maher asked his panel why it was necessary for the Huffington Post to remove comments by readers regarding their disappointment that the recent assassination attempt on Vice President Dick Cheney failed. During the course of the conversation, Maher went over the top by saying in effect that the world would be a safer place if the attempt had succeeded.

Also on Friday, political pundit Ann Coulter, speaking at the Conservative Political Action Conference, raised some eyebrows and a little laughter when she said "I was going to have a few comments on the other Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards, but it turns out you have to go into rehab if you use the word 'faggot', so I - so kind of an impasse, can't really talk about Edwards."

Coulter is taking heat from both the right and the left for her remarks. John McCain, Rudy Giuliani and Mitt Romney have all denounced her comments. And of course, democrats are seething, although the Edwards campaign took the opportunity to raise donations, referring to contributions as "Coulter cash".

There is a tremendous difference between the remarks by Coulter and Maher. Maher implying that Cheney's assassination should have succeeded is by far more despicable than anything that Coulter could ever have uttered. Yet there is virtual silence regarding Maher's vitriol from anyone on the left, while Coulter has been getting it with both barrels from people on both sides of the aisle.

Perhaps it would benefit conservatives to start becoming more vicious. For far too long, those on the right have taken the high road when it comes to political discourse. Maybe we need more people like Coulter to start ramming epithets down the throats of these liberal monsters who have made the politics of personal destruction their mission. Maniacs like Terry McAuliffe, Al Franken and Howard Dean have lashed out in angry dialogue against conservatives virtually unchecked, while every comment regarding the left is expected to be couched in political correctness.

No more. It's time for the Right to get angry. It's time to roll up our sleeves and get down in the mud with these knuckle draggers and start giving them a taste of their own medicine unapologetically. Let's start calling a spade a spade and expose the evil of the Left once and for all.

I applaud Ann Coulter for the cojones she displayed in ripping John Edwards. I hope she continues to let the liberals have it at every available opportunity. And I sincerely hope more conservatives will wake up and start speaking out.

Ann Coulter...you go, girl!

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To: AmericaTalks

i agree. we are tougher if you try to rob us but when it comes to playing politics, well, we're just too nice. Applause for coulter. showing one more way the left has a double standard.


21 posted on 03/04/2007 1:39:01 PM PST by dudewheresmytank (life is good and ammunation is cheap, use both freely)
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To: rrc

I agree, Ann is the best! In my fantasies I'm just like her, laying liberals low with my rapier-sharp wit.


22 posted on 03/04/2007 1:40:30 PM PST by Theresawithanh (Don't be rediki... riducke...rudicki...stoopid!)
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To: farmer18th

Well said!


23 posted on 03/04/2007 1:40:41 PM PST by jetson (II)
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To: farmer18th

You're right in this regard. There is nothing wrong with getting vicious in dealing with overseas enemies, and labeling in any way that helps matters is fine by me. But as regards domestic Leftists, vicious is lost; no way to go here. See my earlier post about directness and unapologia.


24 posted on 03/04/2007 1:41:03 PM PST by Pyncho (Success through excess)
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To: farmer18th

Excellent post!!!!!


25 posted on 03/04/2007 1:42:43 PM PST by Theresawithanh (Don't be rediki... riducke...rudicki...stoopid!)
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To: AmericaTalks
Just tell it like it is, no matter what.

Call a spade a spade, a faggot a faggot, and a RINO a RINO.

For YEARS, the liberal media, in concert with WIMP "moderate" and liberal FAUX Republican RINOs, have been telling the American people that WE don't like "partisonship", and the rough and tumble of political discourse.

This is TOTAL B.S.

We CONSERVATIVES, and probably most Republicans with any sense at all, want to hear and speak the TRUTH...

No matter HOW much that truth hurts.

The liberal media, and their ilk, also try to make us (through carefully crafted articles and push polls) THINK we need to vote for a liberal RINO to win.

More B.S.

We can make up our own minds through Conservative thought and logic. We don't need a bunch of RINO-loving, koolaid-drinking dolts of ANY political stripe (liberal demonRAT OR liberal "Republicans") telling us what to "think" or FEEL about a certain candidate.

The unvarnished TRUTH, in the form of RINO-rudy's words and actions in print, and in video clips, is out there for all who care to see it.

We don't need a northeastern, inner-city, gun-grabbing, abortion-supporting, jack-booted Police/Nanny-State liberal RINO running for REPUBLICAN President of the United States...

PERIOD.

26 posted on 03/04/2007 1:43:46 PM PST by DocH (Gun-grabbers, you can HAVE my guns... lead first.)
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To: AmericaTalks
It's time to roll up our sleeves and get down in the mud with these knuckle draggers and start giving them a taste of their own medicine unapologetically.

Agreed. Who's going to throw the first punch?!

27 posted on 03/04/2007 1:43:47 PM PST by Tamar1973 (Note to Hillary, Boxer and Fonda: The peas called, they want their pod back!)
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To: AmericaTalks

I do think the right needs to get more vicious. Back in the days of the Clintons an' dat ol' James Cawville, I thought we needed someone who is unafraid to hit below the belt. So far, the only one with the cojones to do so has turned out to be a scrawny blonde female. Keep on keepin' on, Ann!


28 posted on 03/04/2007 1:45:54 PM PST by Sans-Culotte ("Thanks, Tom DeLay, for practically giving me your seat"-Nick Lampson)
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To: Pyncho

We've been the victim of this rhetoric for so long, we don't even see how damaging it really is. Half the Republicans I hear spend their time apologizing for their own values instead of attacking the socialists on the other side of the aisle. Reagan was polite, gentlemanly, funny, but he had a hard-as-steel edge when he talked about Communism and taxation--and woe to anyone who got in his way. We need more Pattons of the politcal arena; it's sad that Anne is the only one who can call a Fag a Fag.


29 posted on 03/04/2007 1:46:18 PM PST by farmer18th
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To: AmericaTalks

The thing is, everyone knows dems are despicable low lifes. Nobody expects anything from the other than low class comments that are quite beyond the pale.


30 posted on 03/04/2007 1:47:04 PM PST by McGavin999 ("Hard is not Hopeless" General Petraeus)
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To: CyberAnt
The left has held the Right prisoner long enough. We are supposed to play the docile cowering goody two shoes every time they attack and that has been our problem.
We want to be seen as holding the moral high ground and it is used against us every time.

We can be the party of morals without being a party of doormats.

Every time the left says or does something questionable we don't call them on it because we want to be above such behavior. In effect we give them a free pass. But let the Republican/Right say something, as Ann did, and the Dem's slam us as hypocrites. It's time to end the madness and fight back.
31 posted on 03/04/2007 1:48:26 PM PST by Taichi (No more lying down. No more door mats.)
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To: farmer18th

You're making my case. Reagan was unapologetic, and direct, and could be witty. Ann is, in my view, far wittier, plus her demeanor in general is rascally (a word?). Reagan didn't need to get vicious with the Left, and neither does anyone else. But it is important for conservatives to become more direct - and as many have been saying in this post, call it as they see it.


32 posted on 03/04/2007 1:49:26 PM PST by Pyncho (Success through excess)
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To: rrc

I'm not a violent person, but if I ever see him, I would like to kick the s--- out of Bill Maher if I ever meet him. He is the bigger danger to this country than any terrorist could ever be. As much as I like Soprano's, I cancelled HBO because of him.


33 posted on 03/04/2007 1:52:43 PM PST by InNeedofRWR
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To: ExGeeEye; Mark; mtbopfuyn; Pyncho; jetson; AmericaTalks
Shall we ask the fine men and woman in Iraq if we should be vicious or not?

Shall we ask the Roe v Wade victims if we should be vicious or not?

Shall we ask the victims of 9/11 if we should be vicious or not.

Shall we ask the victims of crime, who couldn't defend themselves, if we should be vicious or not?

It's da*n time we stopped just shaking our heads and muttering, and took this country back. Back to where our forefathers fought so hard to bring it.

34 posted on 03/04/2007 1:52:48 PM PST by dfwddr (Duncan Hunter '08 -- the real thing.)
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To: McGavin999
The thing is, everyone knows dems are despicable low lifes. Nobody expects anything from the other than low class comments that are quite beyond the pale.

This is the attitude that the left knows will be taken by conservatives and spit on us. We need to take on a new attitude like inFIGHT CLUB!AND THAT MIGHT GET THEIR ATTENTION

35 posted on 03/04/2007 1:53:08 PM PST by jetson (II)
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To: AmericaTalks

Why hasn't Edwards apologized to Christians for the evil things his atheist supporters had said about them?!
His staffers maligned a religion...whereas Coulter merely poked fun at his 'metrosexuality' and the runaway political correctness in this country.


36 posted on 03/04/2007 1:53:43 PM PST by citizencon
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To: dfwddr

If domestic viciousness would in any way promote positively any of the causes you just listed, then I would sign up. But I don't see viciousness helping, and you probably don't either. On the other hand, I have no problem if someone should punch out Maher in an elevator somewhere. Jack Bauer?


37 posted on 03/04/2007 1:55:01 PM PST by Pyncho (Success through excess)
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To: jetson

Well I'll tell you what, you get down on that level and let me know what you've "won"


38 posted on 03/04/2007 1:56:49 PM PST by McGavin999 ("Hard is not Hopeless" General Petraeus)
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To: The Worthless Miracle

I don't see how being aggressively vicious like Coulter really helps.
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Sorry, but I think people are becoming "soft" if they think calling someone a faggot (which, incidentally, Coulter did not really do) is "vicious." Un-PC, perhaps. Childish, ok. But vicious? Come on. If Coulter had said she would not be surprised to see Edwards in the baths of San Francisco, that might come closer, but for vicious you have call people Hitler, murderer, or someone who should have been assassinated. Coulter did none of these things. Who did??


39 posted on 03/04/2007 2:01:34 PM PST by NCLaw441
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To: McGavin999
Well I'll tell you what, you get down on that level and let me know what you've "won

Maybe....the battle against the crazy left.

40 posted on 03/04/2007 2:01:56 PM PST by jetson (II)
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