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WHY ALL CONSERVATIVES SHOULD SUPPORT RUDY WITH ENTHUSIASM IN 2008
A CONSERVATIVE BUT RATIONAL MIND | 3/4/2007 | AL SIMMONS

Posted on 03/04/2007 1:04:27 PM PST by Al Simmons

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To: Al Simmons
Rudy is a abortionist, and supports deviant causes, that means he will lie, cheat, steal to further that those causes.
421 posted on 03/04/2007 3:26:05 PM PST by Dstorm
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To: Al Simmons

Changing the definition of Conservative doesn't do it for me.

Rudy Schwarzenegger doesn't get my vote.


422 posted on 03/04/2007 3:26:26 PM PST by Tarpon
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To: Al Simmons
WHY ALL CONSERVATIVES SHOULD SUPPORT RUDY WITH ENTHUSIASM

I disagree.

The only conservatives who should support Rudy with enthusiasm are those who genuinely support Rudy with enthusiasm. Asking people to support candidates they oppose is offensive. This is a political competition, and one cannot win that competition by asking supporters of Rudy's competitors to concede at this early date.

423 posted on 03/04/2007 3:27:05 PM PST by M. Thatcher
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To: stockpirate; nopardons
"This is the same type of arguement Liberals make about Liberalism, it is just too much for we with 147 IQ's to understand."

Wow. So, I guess you will be voting for "the smartest woman in the word" then?

424 posted on 03/04/2007 3:27:09 PM PST by Al Simmons (Thou Shalt Speak No Ill of Another Republican - Ronald Wilson Reagan's 11th Commandment)
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To: M. Thatcher

all of us are on Rudy's "staff" now I guess.


425 posted on 03/04/2007 3:27:30 PM PST by oceanview
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To: PhiKapMom

I can tell you Nevada would probably side with Rudy over Hilly or Obama. Same with McCain. But the GOP can certainly lose here, too - if Dubya were running today he would get his rear end tanned by the average voter.


426 posted on 03/04/2007 3:27:43 PM PST by HitmanLV ("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do suck seed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
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To: M. Thatcher
I guess I'm just a sucker for provocative headlines. I fope that you found the piece a little more balanced, Margaret...

;>)

427 posted on 03/04/2007 3:28:23 PM PST by Al Simmons (Thou Shalt Speak No Ill of Another Republican - Ronald Wilson Reagan's 11th Commandment)
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To: alicewonders
Why do you think that is???????????? All of the "unwanted" American babies have been ABORTED.

That may be part of the reason, but I think a bigger issue is that the adoption system has been ruined by meathead bureaucrats and judges. Today, prospective parents have to jump through endless hoops in order to adopt a child, and even once they get the child can't be certain it won't be taken back from them at some later date for causes entirely beyond their control.

If I had my druthers, unmarried girls and women who have babies would be offered two choices:

  1. Renounce the baby forever, or
  2. Raise the baby with no government assistance.
Once a child has lived a certain length of time with adoptive parents (said time varying somewhat with the age at adoption) the adoption should be considered absolutely and unbreakably permanent unless bad faith can be demonstrated on the part of the adoptive parents. Even if the child turns out to have been kidnapped, if the adopted parents had no reason to know or believe that, the ex-parents' recourse should be against the kidnappers rather than against the child or the new parents.

Unfortuantely, the people who run the system today have financial incentives to keep children in foster care indefinitely. They can't justify nearly as much funding if children are adopted two days after birth.

428 posted on 03/04/2007 3:29:37 PM PST by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: Al Simmons
I fope that you found the piece a little more balanced, Margaret...


429 posted on 03/04/2007 3:31:17 PM PST by EternalVigilance ("Be strong in the Lord, in the power of His Might!")
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To: Tarpon

Well, if it is Rudy or Hillary, I think we have to go with Rudy. He is at least strong on terror and supports the effort in Iraq. Then, hopefully he has long enough coat tails to get more true conservative Republicans elected in the House and Senate and to governorships. His ONLY strength, in my opinion, is that he is strong on defense and anti-terrorism. But, the first job of the President is to defend the country and its borders. Hopefully, a strong, truly republican candidate will emerge.


430 posted on 03/04/2007 3:31:39 PM PST by gobus1
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To: KsSunflower

Listen, I am tired of people running as Republicans and stating they are Conservitives. Then after elected they move to the left and inact their Socialist agenda.

So, if given the choice between someone who is at best a very bad lying two-faced RINO and someone who is a Marxist.

I would chosse the Marxist without question.

The reason is very simple, I know what the Maxist is and what they will try to do. The lying two-faced RINO, well now that is a different story.

And if I believed him and then he betrayed me well boy would I look stupid, but not with the other person, because I knew what I was getting.

And when the Republican Party understands that, maybe they will run a non-RINO.

Besides while Hillery would be very bad for this country, and good for the Republican party, Rudy would be very bad for this country and the Republican Party.

I feel the same way about that two-faced POS McCain.

Remove his medals and his is nothing, sold us out with his campaign fin bill. Nothing more than a Liberal Republican.

He will never get my vote, under any situation.

I for one am tired of spineless, jellyfish coward republicans, they are a disgrace and are a waste of air.


431 posted on 03/04/2007 3:31:47 PM PST by stockpirate (Democratic approach to Iraq would "validate the al-Qaeda strategy,")
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To: ThreePuttinDude
I can tell you, a protest "non-vote" will never happen with me again.

Thanks. That is good stewardship of an awesome, inviolable right. There is no moral courage in abdication and default.
432 posted on 03/04/2007 3:33:10 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: Al Simmons
I hope that you found the piece a little more balanced

Although I agree with some of it, as a social conservative I don't like the dismissive "socon" stuff.

Some of the most virulent anti-Rudy posters here believe they speak for social conservatives, but they don't. I reject their self-nomination to be spokespeople, and so should you. I think it's politically important to recognize that many social conservatives are indeed looking favorably at a Guiliani candidacy.

433 posted on 03/04/2007 3:34:31 PM PST by M. Thatcher
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To: michigander
It won't be 20 months. Eight to ten at the most.

Even that sounds like an eternity given the past few weeks here.

Here's the situation as I see it. Anyone may feel free to correct my perception with no hard feelings, at least on my part.


434 posted on 03/04/2007 3:35:44 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Lurker
Would it make you feel any better if Rudy qualified it by saying he was an fiscal, crime fighting, privatizing, tax cutting, kicking al Qaeda's ass type of Conservative?
435 posted on 03/04/2007 3:36:56 PM PST by aligncare (No, the science is NOT settled.)
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To: aligncare
Would it make you feel any better if Rudy qualified it by saying he was an fiscal, crime fighting, privatizing, tax cutting, kicking al Qaeda's ass type of Conservative?

Nope.

My Constitutional rights are non-negotiable. Period.

L

436 posted on 03/04/2007 3:40:25 PM PST by Lurker (Calling islam a religion is like calling a car a submarine.)
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To: Al Simmons

I would vote for a legless hooker on crack before I would vote for Rudy the supporter of cross dressing homosexual child molesting preverts, and people that support murdering unborn babies..

Video at 11.


437 posted on 03/04/2007 3:41:12 PM PST by stockpirate (Democratic approach to Iraq would "validate the al-Qaeda strategy,")
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To: Dog Gone
Even that sounds like an eternity given the past few weeks here.

That's because in political time, it's, potentially, 3 or 4 lifetimes.

No social conservative has managed to even get name recognition, much less an effective campaign going.

Yet...

438 posted on 03/04/2007 3:41:50 PM PST by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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To: gobus1

Rudy - Hillary

Why, what difference would it make? Amnesty, nope -- gun control, nope -- health care, nope -- abortion, nope -- global warming, nope -- taxes, you're kidding right .... let's see there must be some difference in there somewhere. Maybe on the Iraq war, but it's either done in Iraq by 2008, or it's cooked. Terror, doubtful there is going to be any real difference, until the nukes go off.

Agreed -- The best thing to do is elect a good Conservative Representative and Senator. Put Mitch in charge of the Senate.

I refuse to change the definitions so as to vote for anyone.


439 posted on 03/04/2007 3:41:58 PM PST by Tarpon
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To: Al Simmons
The issue in 2008 will be the WOT

What a canard. We will prevail over Islam. The "WOT" is not the be-all and end-all of the United States. Meanwhile our children are under constant attack by homosexual fanatics bent on recruiting them by portraying perversity as diversity. This nation needs a strong Conservative leader to counter these destructive trends.

440 posted on 03/04/2007 3:42:47 PM PST by montag813
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