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Taiwan President Declares Taiwan Must Seek Independence
playful.com ^ | 3-04-07 | staff

Posted on 03/04/2007 11:21:03 AM PST by at bay

Taiwanese President Chen Shui-bian, in an abrupt move on Sunday, declared that Taiwan must seek independence.

"On the 25th birthday of FAPA (the Formosan Association for Public Affairs), I want to put forward the 'four musts and one no' call. They are: Taiwan must seek independence, must rectify its name, must have a new constitution and must seek development," Chen said at the dinner party marking the 25th anniversary of founding of FAPA, a US- based pro-independence group formed by overseas Taiwanese.

The island of Taiwan, formerly known as Formosa and officially called the Republic of China, was site of the Chinese Nationalist government-in-exile at the end of the Chinese Civil War in 1949.

In explaining the "four musts and one no," Chen said that Taiwan's seeking independence owed to the country's being a sovereign state, independent of the People's Republic of China, and that independence was common dream and goal of Taiwan's people.

He said the country should apply for membership of the United Nations under the name "Taiwan," frame a new constitution and develop its economy and democracy in keeping with being an independent nation.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: redchina; standingtall; taiwan
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To: MARKUSPRIME

Folks of power and money . . . have . . . some say . . . for 400 years worked hard to bring about a tyrannical world government. They are on the brink of succeeding wholesale.

Have studied such since 1965. It's pretty obvious these days . . . if one has one's eyes open.


101 posted on 03/04/2007 5:17:20 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS WORTHY; GOD ALONE PAID THE PRICE; GOD ALONE IS ABLE; LOVE GOD WHOLLY)
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To: itsahoot
LOL,,,Don't kid "yourself" it's China who cannot afford
to do anything,,,that trade thing,,,the Wal-Mart hammer
for one,,,money dealings between the two countries Etc.
Too close for them to "shoot at their own $$$$$"
so to speak,,,"NoTiki,NoWashi".;0)

some info :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_of_Taiwan
102 posted on 03/04/2007 5:22:49 PM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

Uhhhhh

perhaps you'd be willing to tell me what personal experiences with the Chinese have convinced you that

the ruling decision makers in Beijing

CARE a microgram's worth about those things compared to their pride???


103 posted on 03/04/2007 5:33:59 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS WORTHY; GOD ALONE PAID THE PRICE; GOD ALONE IS ABLE; LOVE GOD WHOLLY)
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To: Quix

Hey,Quix,,,long time no seeum,,,34 day war I think,,;0)
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perhaps you'd be willing to tell me what personal experiences with the Chinese,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Sure~~~ :
I fought the oriental mind~set in 67-68(TET 68)
Those people worship that guy Sun~Tzu as a "way of life",,,
Giap made that mistake and lost his army,,,that said,,,
This is the year of the golden piggy,,,prosperity,,,
The ROC reads ol'Sun TZu Too(sorry);0),,,and believe all
that good luck stuff,,,That's why the "Statement" was made.
The Chinese have gotten too close to their enemy(US)
They cannot strike without hitting themselves is the point
of my ramble,LOL;0)~~~GOD Bless~~~


104 posted on 03/04/2007 6:26:34 PM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

Certainly Sun TZU is a way of life for many . . .

Doesn't trump pride, imho.


105 posted on 03/04/2007 7:14:58 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS WORTHY; GOD ALONE PAID THE PRICE; GOD ALONE IS ABLE; LOVE GOD WHOLLY)
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To: zook
I have begun hearing rumblings from friends on the island that maybe a Chinese invasion wouldn't be such a bad thing.

Every country(and I do mean country) has their commie lovers. The U.S. does. So does Taiwan.

106 posted on 03/04/2007 7:16:21 PM PST by FreeReign (Still looking for the best conservative candidate.)
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To: Quix

Certainly Sun TZU is a way of life for many . . .

Doesn't trump pride, imho.
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Very true,,,after all,,,the sin of "Pride" came first...


107 posted on 03/04/2007 7:35:16 PM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Quix

Why? Does Tawain have some good athletes that China needs? Like curling or something?


108 posted on 03/04/2007 7:37:31 PM PST by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?" "Because it's judgment that defeats us.")
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To: at bay
"Taiwanese President Chen Shui-bian, in an abrupt move on Sunday, declared that Taiwan must seek independence."

Uh oh. Wasn't this the fellow who was elected on a platform that sought a more conciliatory tone with the mainland? Wonder what's up. Wonder if someone's been keeping the dust off that two-front war doctrine.
109 posted on 03/04/2007 7:56:19 PM PST by Old_Mil (Duncan Hunter in 2008! A Veteran, A Patriot, A Reagan Republican... http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68
LOL,,,Don't kid "yourself" it's China who cannot afford to do anything,,,that trade thing

You kid yourself it you think that really matters to them, except as a means to an end.

Consider these same arguments were made and for the same reasons on December 6th, 1941.

110 posted on 03/04/2007 7:56:54 PM PST by itsahoot (The GOP did nothing about immigration, immigration did something about the GOP (As Predicted))
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To: at bay

Fit is about to hit the Shan!


111 posted on 03/04/2007 7:58:58 PM PST by lawdude (2006: The elections we will live to die for!)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

They will throw the Olympics away almost in a flash over Taiwan.
= = = =

Why? Does Tawain have some good athletes that China needs? Like curling or something?

= = = =

I guess I didn't communicate very well . . . The Olympics are relatively insignificant compared to Beijing's pride over Taiwan.

They have even publicly stated so at least a time or 3.

The Olympics will not protect Taiwan.


112 posted on 03/04/2007 8:05:20 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS WORTHY; GOD ALONE PAID THE PRICE; GOD ALONE IS ABLE; LOVE GOD WHOLLY)
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To: Quix

"The shadow government . . . globalists determined to set up a tyrannical world government; reduce the world's population to 500,000,000 . . . etc."

Who are these people exactly? Can you name them?

"They, BTW, are the ones in control of all the exhotic technologies courtesy of our 'visitors.'"

What visitors? Who is in control?


113 posted on 03/04/2007 8:37:13 PM PST by GovernmentIsTheProblem (Capitalism is the economic expression of individual liberty. Pass it on.)
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem

You have plenty of key words to look up on

http;//www.dogpile.com

I have no need to deal in such details


114 posted on 03/04/2007 8:52:43 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS WORTHY; GOD ALONE PAID THE PRICE; GOD ALONE IS ABLE; LOVE GOD WHOLLY)
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To: itsahoot
Consider these same arguments were made and for the same reasons on December 6th, 1941.
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I have no idea what this has to do with the present-day
situation,,,We were not trade-pardners with Japan,,then,
as we are with China,, today,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Just the opposite,,,we sold them scrap etc.,,,the trade
cut-off was their problem,,,it prevented their expansion
to their west,,,
China is "lookin'down the barrel" of enough nukes to put them back to the stone-age in the very first hour,,,
China remembers Aug.6 1945,,,No Kiddin'
We/most of us remember Dec.6 1941 as the day before Japan
"Shot Themselves in the Foot" and it went downhill from there,,,No Kiddin'...;0)
115 posted on 03/04/2007 9:03:33 PM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Quix

"I have no need to deal in such details"

Why, would it keep you away from listening to "coast to coast?"


116 posted on 03/04/2007 9:06:19 PM PST by GovernmentIsTheProblem (Capitalism is the economic expression of individual liberty. Pass it on.)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
The timing may be to utilize the next Olympics as cover. China is going to have to think hard if they want to invade and blow off their international coming out party.
117 posted on 03/04/2007 9:09:30 PM PST by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: Quix

Keep in mind they see any US interference over Taiwan as their "Monroe Doctrine" being challenged...


118 posted on 03/04/2007 9:47:32 PM PST by Schwaeky (Welcome to America--Now speak English or LEAVE!)
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To: Quix

Well, perhaps.

The shift of the Chinese economic investment paradigm may very well shake the goals of hegemony over Taiwan away from the non-filtered cigarette smoking, ruling clique of the bourgeouis elitist in China.

Sincerely,

War mongering running dog, stooge and proud capitalistic interloper and citizen of the U.S.A.


119 posted on 03/04/2007 9:51:37 PM PST by Hilltop (?)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

bttt


120 posted on 03/04/2007 10:40:19 PM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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