Posted on 03/04/2007 7:07:39 AM PST by DKNY
If Giuliani can get through primaries, he stacks up well For a guy commonly regarded as a hero after 9/11, Mayor Giuliani is too quickly dismissed by presidential handicappers. Here's why he deserves a second look.
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Sorry, but I still stand by my thought that post #130 was done with a sick sense of humor. It was done in poor taste. Yes, it was meant to be humorous as Registered considers himself a commercial artist mainly humorus.
Notice the pictures of Rudy in drag. He is actually smiling and posing. His choices!
Look at Terri's picture and compare the above.
LG, I think that I see where you are coming from--abortion creates the same kind of regret for "abortion-hater-but pro-choice" people that anyone would have for as-yet-childless newlyweds dying in a car wreck. The regret being that the newlyweds didn't get a chance to bring about further life.
I don't agree with this at all, having come to the conclusion that the unborn have inalienable rights because they are people. If I didn't believe that somebody's rights are violated in an abortion, I would want the government to stay out of it. That would be the conservative position, and I wouldn't "hate abortion" because of any potentiality.
Freegards
Single Issue? I think not. My concerns are wide and expansive and range from NCLB, gun control, expanding government spending, CFR, immigration and government give-a-aways as well as abortion. If you take the time to really delve into Rudy's background you will find him to be a big government supporter that includes gun control; he supports CFR and anmesty for illegals and thinks the government should throw more money into a socialist healthcare program that simply doesn't work. His views on these matters are diametrically opposite of the Republican platform as well as his views on the homosexual issue. His views on terrorism are just that...his views. His response to 911 was what any halfway decent CEO would have done. His follow up to 911 and NYC security hasn't made a passing grade with Homeland Security.
I'll give hime credit though....he has maintained his camera time with his huffing and puffing while essentially doing nothing but campaigning for the office of President.
No Kidding! 85% of the Free Republic are not fans of Rudy and would not vote for him.
If you oppose abortion because you are killing potential life, not because you are killing life, then you would, if being rational, also oppose contraception because it is preventing potential life.
I realise people wouldn't necessarily equate the two, but if the problem is "potential life" and not "life", then contraception stops the potential life just like abortion -- unless of course you see a different between potential life and the fetus, in which case we are back to the fetus being something more than simply "potential life".
What is so important about "potential life" that we would ever want to discourage a 14-year-old from fulfilling that "potential life" if she got pregnant? I realise you are trying to make a distinction between "potential" and "actual" life, but I contend that potential life isn't a rational reason to oppose abortion in many instances.
Notice the pictures of Rudy in drag. He is actually smiling and posing. His choices!
You are still missing the point, my question was not to Register or what he posted. I asked another poster if it was relevant to post photos that have nothing to do with one's politics, such as the in drag photo's. I'm sorry if you have trouble understanding that.
you summed that up very well...of course I'm a RINO as I'm supporting Rudy according to those in the know on here...guess that makes me a Liberal too....geez and I'm from Texas another problem and now I live in CA another problem...but at the end of the day on Jan 20 2009 Rudy is the ONLY person I want to see in the Oval Office...he did in NY what "people" said could not be done...he can and will do the same thing in DC if and when he is elected President...he will have coattails so we can take control of 1 or both houses of Congress...he will put states in play that are not traditonal GOP states...he will make the Dems spend money in CA, PA, NY, NJ and other states where they tradiionally don't have to...this is an unprecedened election as there is no sitting VP running...this is an election that can reshape the political landscape...Rudy has helped many many candidates at all levels get elected so he has a broad base of support already....and no I'm not a paid shill
You argument is a bit off. First, ectopic pregnancies are normally discovered via ultrasound with or without symptoms in the first 6-8 weeks of pregnancy. Unfortunately at that stage of gestation the fetus is not viable, hence the decision to "save two lives" is a moot point since mortality of the fetus is 0%. I should also note that almost 80% of ectopic pregnancies are pseudogestational sacs and not fetuses. Don't get me wrong, I am very much prolife (I was unfortunate to see a partial-birth abortion early in my medical career. After 30 years I still have vivid memories of that day).
like I asked you how would he get it built in the first 6 month's he's in office? how does he make that happen?
are you aware the Joe won because the GOP voters in CT donated money to him as an Independent and also voted for him? he supports President Bush and the WOT and the voters in CT did not like what his own party did to him so they helped him win...I would love to see the Senator Lieberman convert to the GOP....
your comment I responded to was your stating the 15% of the people post 70% of the threads....my comment back to you was why don't the other 85% of the people post threads? so if you and the other 85% of the people don't like Rudy based on your own statement why don't you post threads so you can discuss what you want? that is why this is called a forum
The image was created to make a point that Duncan Hunter, a supposedly avid pro-life candidate, couldn't find the time to vote but apparently had time to give interviews to the press. It had no humor in it at all.
Capeche'?
Be glad EV has categorized you as someone that doesn't buy his schtick, that means you probably won't be on his solicitation list for donations in the future (that is WHY he exists here, to fleece people using hot button issues)
Agree, the image had no humor and was also in poor taste.
Comprende?
The point is that Joe had to win using a 3rd party. Now, everyone claims a 3rd party can't win. Hmmmmm And Republicans crossed over giving money to a 3rd party helping him win. Hmmmmmm
Ignore the image if you like, but consider the fact that Duncan Hunter made the PR rounds but couldn't muster an actual vote for this important Pro-Life bill. I'm sure you consider that in fine taste. LOL.
Sure, I am disappointed that D. Hunter didn't vote. We don't know why he didn't vote. Maybe an acute case of diarrhea or constipation? His no vote did not change the outcome.
Yes, the image of Terri is strictly poor taste.
Step one: Mobilize troops along the border.
Step two: Build the fence.
Step three: Replace troops with border patrol assigned to monitor the fence.
It's really not that hard!
hmm...President Bush has already done that
Dead wrong. Your statement is not based on science but on a justification. The science of reproduction makes it very clear that it is not "potential life" -- rather it is human life. Thus, abortion is the ending of human life which in terms of the great body of human law means that it is murder.
What you mislabel as "potential life" has from its conception a genetic structure as human as yours. It is human life at its inception. It is human life as it lives, subdividing, multiplying and organizing its cells and tissues. It continues as human life until natural death or until someone murders it.
The notion of potentiality as a category was a late 19th and a 20th century Eugenics category which the Nazis used in the most diabolical ways. The use of "potentiality" in the abortion debate by those who support it continues the same line of reason employed by the Nazis in exterminating the Gypsies, the Jews, and the disabled.
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