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To: ko_kyi
In many histories I have read, the mentality by the end of the war was that "we fought Germans, but we kill Japanese."

There were atrocities by Americans against Japanese as well. Charles Lindbergh traveled extensively in the South Pacific during the war, and recorded atrocities in his "Wartime Journals". He recorded instances of body part collecting. Gold teeth collecting, and other barbarities against the dead. He also recorded the fact that there were virtually zero Japanese prisoners. The story has been perpetuated since the war that the Japanese "fought to the death", prefering to die in battle rather than be captured. Lindbergh says that American soldiers did not allow surrender. We killed them all. Lindbergh told of an order from a commander to give day passes to soldiers who brought in live Japanese prisoners, because they needed prisoners for intellegence gathering. They were suddenly swamped with prisoners. But as soon as they stopped giving out day passes for live prisoners, there were no more prisoners.

Granted, this is not as barbaric as what the Japanese did. It was a brutal war, and Americans returned at least some of the barbarity shown us. Except for Lindbergh, this story is virtually unknown.

38 posted on 03/04/2007 6:52:41 AM PST by narby
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To: narby
There were atrocities by Americans against Japanese as well.

The Chinese took very few Japanese prisoners. The Japanese soldier knew that to be taken alive by the Chinese was a fate worse than death.

42 posted on 03/04/2007 7:15:02 AM PST by Zhang Fei
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To: narby
Lindbergh attracted more public attention when he accepted a German medal of honour from Goering. After returning to the US in 1939, Lindbergh campaigned against US involvement in the European war, and was accused of being a Nazi sympathiser.

43 posted on 03/04/2007 7:27:54 AM PST by Wolverine (A Concerned Citizen)
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To: narby

Americans were not as brutal as the Japanese were. Japanese are still wanting apologies from Americans for bombings. Where is the apology from Japan for what they did to the Chinese,Korean,Americans & Aussie soldiers? They were very evil just like the Nazis'.


44 posted on 03/04/2007 7:34:50 AM PST by Strutt9
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To: narby

"It was a brutal war, and Americans returned at least some of the barbarity shown us. Except for Lindbergh, this story is virtually unknown."

You might enjoy "With the old Breed" by EB Sledge.


49 posted on 03/04/2007 5:57:51 PM PST by ko_kyi
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To: narby
Gold teeth collecting, and other barbarities against the dead.

Not the living. Big difference. That doesn't even begin to put them on the same level. How nice of you to point this out.

57 posted on 03/05/2007 4:26:35 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: narby

Lindbergh may have been a daring pilot but he was also a strong Nazi supporter.

There no doubt were isolated acts committed by US troops, there are on both sides in EVERY war (WAR IS HELL, REMEMBER!!) but to equate that to deliberate, systematic tourture mass murder and genocide is stupid and intillectually dishonest.

The reason "this story" is vertually unknown except for Lindbergh's account is because he had a pro-Axis, anti American agenda to push.


61 posted on 03/05/2007 4:46:55 AM PST by dirtstiff
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To: narby
There were atrocities by Americans against Japanese

Just what is your point with this post?

Japan attacked us and we were at war, the commanders on the ground made decisions based upon the real enemy they were facing.

Validating Lindbergh's comments are no different than validating the armchair generals in the media or in the Democrat party today, some who have also 'traveled extensively' thoughout Iraq and Afghanistan.

Japan started the war and got what they deserved, America achieved what we were required to do.

We need that attitude today to allow our trusted military leaders to do their job and not worry about the 'experts' on the sidlines. Just because Lindbergh flew a plane over the Atlantic doesn't make him right. It was a war. People get killed. The whole thing is an atrocity.

Some people will do anything to find a speck of dirt in a mission of glory carried out by millions of Americans. I find it distasteful, disgusting...and ask myself "why"? Others should be questioning why YOU make this statement. My Dad fought in CBI theater, and at 86 he would still choke anybody who would defame the mission and achievements of those great men and women with statements like that.

Expecting a guarantee on a 'clean, perfect war' is just hiding some other agenda. Take it elsewhere, please.

73 posted on 03/05/2007 9:46:35 AM PST by NewLand (Always remember September 11, 2001)
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To: narby
It really does sound like you are equating the actions of our soldiers with the barbarity of the Japanese, narby.

Is that what you really mean to do? You really want to be a John Kerry here?

Where is your evidence other than a single person's account of what occurred? There were thousands upon thousands of soldiers and Marines on those islands. Where is the body of evidence to back up your accusations of our WWII GI's?

93 posted on 03/06/2007 1:51:39 PM PST by ohioWfan (PRAY for our President and our troops!!)
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To: narby

Lindbergh was a Nazi sympathiser meaning you can't believe anything he said.


99 posted on 03/06/2007 2:25:56 PM PST by cubstoseries07
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To: narby

Boy, are you off base.

In WWII, the Japanese bayoneted Marines and Soldiers they captured.

In the Battle oF guadalcanal, they suckered some Marines into thinking they were going to surrender to them, and killed over 2 dozen Marines.

The Japanese in China threw babies in the air and caught them on their bayonets.

To even try to compare American combat reaction to an enemy who didn't surrender is ignorant of the facts.

Your comments are the equivalent of saying that the Islamikazis are doing what the're doing and Abu Grahib is the reason: i.e.; equating beheadings with panties on the head.


102 posted on 03/06/2007 2:30:35 PM PST by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty: The Pendleton 8...down to 3..GWB, we hardly knew ye...)
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To: narby; ohioWfan; All
Except for Lindbergh, this story is virtually unknown.

Makes it suspect to me. Surely there are other corroborating sources if there is any truth to it? Believing Charles Lindbergh about this would be like believing Baghdad Bob that the Americans were defeated at the border of Iraq. He had an agenda.

165 posted on 03/06/2007 7:54:58 PM PST by StarCMC (FR is a success, in spite of all...cats they've sacrificed ...demon gods they've prayed to. - Bryan)
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