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Giuliani Has No Real Chance With GOP Voters . . . or Does He?
The Washington Post ^ | March 4, 2007 | Dan Balz

Posted on 03/04/2007 2:13:52 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

The 2008 presidential campaign is just weeks old, but already an article of faith within the Republican Party -- the belief that no politician who favors abortion rights and gay rights can win the GOP nomination -- is being challenged by the candidacy of former New York mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani.

...."This is the first Republican presidential primary since Sept. 11," said Ed Gillespie, ... "Rudy Giuliani is a candidate who can clearly test the proposition that a Republican who is more moderate on social issues can capture the nomination. He's testing it now."

....Whit Ayres, a Georgia-based Republican pollster, said he has been struck by the number of conservatives he has encountered who disagree with Giuliani on abortion or gay rights but are still attracted to him as a possible Republican nominee. ....

"It truly is the question in Republican presidential politics at the moment," Ayres said. "There are a lot of people with a more traditional view who think that his leading in the polls is just a mirage and that he has no real chance. I don't believe that. I think there's more to this than simply name ID. "

...A veteran Republican strategist, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to candidly assess the situation, said he is among those who long believed that a Republican with Giuliani's profile would have no chance. He still believes the former mayor faces significant obstacles but said the odds of Giuliani winning the nomination are not as remote as they once seemed.

He gave three reasons: the absence of a strong, traditional conservative in the GOP field; continuing antipathy among many social and religious conservatives toward McCain; and the prospect of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) becoming the next president.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
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To: BonnieJ

I won't vote third party. I will go to the polls and just leave the box for president blank.


121 posted on 03/04/2007 5:16:24 AM PST by Coldwater Creek
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
said Ed Gillespie, ... "Rudy Giuliani is a candidate who can clearly test the proposition that a Republican who is more moderate on social issues can capture the nomination. He's testing it now."

This is a lie. Being pro-abortion, even pro-partial birth abortion, pro-gay marriage, pro-gay military, pro-gay adoption, etc. is NOT being a "moderate on social issues". If that was so, then all of the Democrats are moderates and not liberals. And we all know that the Democrats are liberals on social issues. Giuliani's views are square with the Democrats on social issues and, therefore, he is a liberal along with them. There are extremes on both sides of these issues. The Republican Party opposes abortion and the radical gay agenda. The Republican Party is not extreme on these issues despite their opposition. I would say that the Republican Party's position on social issues is the moderate one. Giuliani's views are way past the moderation line set by the Republican Party and well into the Democrat liberal territory. He is not a moderate on these issues. If Gillespie thinks Giuliani's views are moderate, then that explains why I never got along with Gillespie while he was the party chairman and further explains why the party continued its slide to the left, abandonment of traditional principles among its candidates, and eventually took a beating in 2006.

122 posted on 03/04/2007 5:16:26 AM PST by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: BonnieJ

Than the GOP better get off it's butt and start getting a conservative so we don't have to go through that. I don't blame people who have convictions but GOP who does not understand who the voters are.


123 posted on 03/04/2007 5:17:43 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: narses

Keep posting! There is NO long term hope for the Republican Party if Rudy gets it.


124 posted on 03/04/2007 5:18:26 AM PST by farmer18th
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Then, I guess that Rudy will not need my vote? I can leave the presidential box blank and not worry that I have done harm to my country.
125 posted on 03/04/2007 5:21:08 AM PST by Coldwater Creek
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To: joseph20

AMEN!


126 posted on 03/04/2007 5:23:27 AM PST by antivenom (If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much damn space!)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
I keep asking the same question but get no response. If he does win the nomination, will Conservatives come out to vote for him?

Oh, it gets answered a lot. My answer is:

I always vote. I will never vote for a candidate with the positions that Rudy has taken.

127 posted on 03/04/2007 5:24:30 AM PST by don-o (Fight, fight. fight to drive the GOP to the right!!!!)
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To: George W. Bush

Not a Rudy fan one reason being his morals. But, he can't hold a candle to the Clinton's.


128 posted on 03/04/2007 5:25:19 AM PST by Coldwater Creek
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To: narses

Talking to a brick wall!!!! They just don't get it.


129 posted on 03/04/2007 5:26:24 AM PST by Coldwater Creek
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To: familyop

I think that you are right. This will probably be the lowest turnout in history for both parties.


130 posted on 03/04/2007 5:27:46 AM PST by Coldwater Creek
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To: All

In view of all that information out there (some true, some not), less than enthusiastic FR support and not 100 percent support from talk radio I think that it's fair to say that Mr. Giuliani likely supports a "Fairness Doctrine."


131 posted on 03/04/2007 5:28:27 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: napscoordinator

McCain has already been chosen by the big cheeses. Dole number two.


132 posted on 03/04/2007 5:32:06 AM PST by Coldwater Creek
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To: mariabush
terrible grammar!
133 posted on 03/04/2007 5:33:21 AM PST by Coldwater Creek
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To: mariabush

Maria,
I am praying big time at mass today. lol. We might be in trouble 20 January 2009 no matter what.


134 posted on 03/04/2007 5:34:43 AM PST by napscoordinator
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135 posted on 03/04/2007 5:37:58 AM PST by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I read it.

It was an overview of all the candidates at CPAC... Giuliani wasn't the focus of the piece.

Wipe the stardust from your peepers... blind infatuation is known to affect perception.

136 posted on 03/04/2007 5:39:15 AM PST by johnny7 ("We took a hell of a beating." -'Vinegar Joe' Stilwell)
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To: mariabush

arr...arr, aye maties, I am here from the country club school of liberal/moderate RINO republicans to take the party back...arr... arr.

137 posted on 03/04/2007 5:43:12 AM PST by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: MadIvan
That's not what she said. It's not the goals we disagree on, it's the means.

Yes. But, 1600 Penn Ave is the location of the bully pulpit that still commands a lot of respect. I cannot foresee a President Giuliani addressing the Annual March for Life or doing any other of the symbolic acts which help to keep the issue before the public.

btw, I appreciate your posts, even though I disagree with your conclusions. You are very well versed with how this Republic is supposed to work.

138 posted on 03/04/2007 5:45:24 AM PST by don-o (Fight, fight. fight to drive the GOP to the right!!!!)
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To: napscoordinator
The way I see it, the only hope that we have for this country, is to pray that God will raise up someone that meets the criteria. The scriptures tell us that HE raises up "kings" and takes them down.

It is not too early to get a prayer vigil going.
139 posted on 03/04/2007 5:48:39 AM PST by Coldwater Creek
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To: EQAndyBuzz
I keep asking the same question but get no response. If he does win the nomination, will Conservatives come out to vote for him?

I will

140 posted on 03/04/2007 5:53:13 AM PST by rface ("...the most schizoid freeper I've ever seen" - New Bloomfield, Missouri)
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