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Giuliani starts strong in test of Republican voter allegiances
Washington Post ^ | march 4, 2007 | DAN BALZ

Posted on 03/03/2007 10:04:21 PM PST by FairOpinion

The man who was named Time magazine's "Person of the Year" for his response to the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks is now leading in a slew of national polls and testing whether cultural and religious conservatives in the GOP will support a candidate who offers strong leadership on security and terrorism rather than ideological purity on social issues.

Whit Ayres, a Georgia-based Republican pollster, said he has been struck by the number of conservatives he encountered who disagree with Giuliani on abortion or gay rights but are still attracted to him as a possible Republican nominee. The issue is whether that appeal can survive through a long campaign in which Giuliani's New York record, his position on issues, his three marriages and his complex business dealings will be subjected to withering scrutiny.

The latest Washington Post-ABC News poll showed Giuliani leading McCain by 44 percent to 21 percent, with former House speaker Newt Gingrich at 15 percent and former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney at 4 percent.

Many GOP strategists still question whether Giuliani can survive the scrutiny and develop a message that appeals to voters across the spectrum of Republican conservatism. In his speech Friday at the Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington, Giuliani highlighted his record as a tax cutter, crime fighter and welfare reformer. But he offered little resembling a traditional conservative agenda for the future, other than saying the United States must remain on offense against terrorism. The speech won a polite but hardly enthusiastic response from the audience of activists.

(Excerpt) Read more at unionleader.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: electionpresident; elections; giuliani; rudy
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To: nopardons

"Hunter can't win the primary; let alone the general election. And he has the same stance, as Rudy does, on partial birth abortion"


Where did THAT come from????
Read this, then come back and tell me Hunter has the same stance as Rudy.

http://rightwingnews.com/interviews/duncanhunter.php

MM


221 posted on 03/04/2007 12:58:57 AM PST by motormouth (It's not true that life is one damn thing after another; it is one damn thing over and over.)
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To: nopardons

Makes me dangerous to this nation does it? LOL!! I had no idea that I had so much power and influence that I could actually be dangerous to this nation. You better watch out then! That's really funny. I've said this often, I learn something new here everyday on FR. I've got to say, you have given me a lot of good entertainment tonight. I haven't been up this late for over 20 years. I gotta go to bed now and rest up for another day of reading your ridiculous liberal propaganda. See you in a few hours friend!


222 posted on 03/04/2007 1:00:56 AM PST by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense, don't you wish everybody did?)
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To: jim35
Ted Olsen is now a RINO, Michael Reagan is now a RINO and a traitor, George Will is the same, and on and on and on.....

The misuse and abuse to that term, by you and your ilk proves one thing and one thing only....that you are indifferent to facts and the actual meanings of words and terms.

Unlike you, I know the reality of not only how important it is for the GOP candidate to beat the Dem presidential candidate, but why it is better to support someone who can do that and give me most of the things I want.

Principles mean less than nothing, when you lose. When you lose an election, you get exactly what you do NOT want and no, your life does NOT just then go on, as if nothing changed.

223 posted on 03/04/2007 1:01:06 AM PST by nopardons
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To: FairOpinion
The MSM keeps harping on the issues that could divide conservatives/Republicans

Amen!
And many fish here are taking the MSM bait.

224 posted on 03/04/2007 1:01:44 AM PST by MaxMax (God Bless America)
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To: mylife

Same here, good night friend!


225 posted on 03/04/2007 1:02:07 AM PST by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense, don't you wish everybody did?)
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To: motormouth
I'll be less "abrasive" ( which I guess means stop telling the facts and just go along with the lies and propaganda...right? ), when you face the facts and see that there is absolutely no hope of any of the bottom tier guys to win. Neither is some GREAT WHITE CONSERVATIBVE HOPE going to appear and save you.
226 posted on 03/04/2007 1:03:43 AM PST by nopardons
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To: narses
And you are going to have to some day face reality.

Just because you are allowed to break all of FR's rules, with impunity, doesn't mean that you are going to get your dream candidate, in the real world.

227 posted on 03/04/2007 1:05:21 AM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

LOL Youre a joke. Go peddle your crap elsewhere.

MM


228 posted on 03/04/2007 1:07:18 AM PST by motormouth (It's not true that life is one damn thing after another; it is one damn thing over and over.)
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To: motormouth

Both Giuliani and Hunter agree that partial birth abortions can only be performed to save the life of the mother.


229 posted on 03/04/2007 1:08:18 AM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

Post your source...of both candidates position.

MM


230 posted on 03/04/2007 1:09:10 AM PST by motormouth (It's not true that life is one damn thing after another; it is one damn thing over and over.)
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To: dmw

Not just you....anyone who refuses to vote for the GOP presidential candidate, in '08, no matter who he is, is giving aid and comfort to the Dems.


231 posted on 03/04/2007 1:09:28 AM PST by nopardons
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To: motormouth
--On President Bill Clinton: Shortly before his last-minute endorsement of Bob Dole in the 1996 presidential election, Giuliani told the Post's Jack Newfield that "most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine." Rudy! An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani, Wayne Barrett.

--The Daily News quoted Giuliani as saying March 1996: "Whether you talk about President Clinon, Senator Dole.... The country would be in very good hands in the hands of any of that group." An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani, Wayne Barrett.
232 posted on 03/04/2007 1:10:51 AM PST by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: motormouth
Worse yet, Giuliani even supports partial birth abortion:

"I'm pro-choice. I'm pro-gay rights,Giuliani said. He was then asked whether he supports a ban on what critics call partial-birth abortions. "No, I have not supported that, and I don't see my position on that changing," he responded." -- CNN.com, "Inside Politics" Dec 2, 1999

233 posted on 03/04/2007 1:14:18 AM PST by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: jla

"Wait until all those pesky people with religion learn more about Sir Rudy."

Won't matter one bit. Look at all the black churches that vote liberal. Look at all the catholics in Mass that vote liberal.

If those "pesky people with religion" decide to stay home then they get what they deserve. If they feel so strongly, then they will vote for Hunter and if he doesn't get the nomination, they will pull the lever for an "R" because they always did and always will.


234 posted on 03/04/2007 1:21:03 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (The Clintons: A Malignant Malfeasance of the Most Morbid)
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To: coconutt2000

"We keep on going back to the adage, "Don't let perfect be the enemy of good enough." After the primaries, we must absolutely put aside our differences and join forces on the basis that even if the winning candidate isn't perfect, at least he must be good enough.'

Bravo. Someone who gets it.


235 posted on 03/04/2007 1:22:23 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (The Clintons: A Malignant Malfeasance of the Most Morbid)
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To: FairOpinion

If that's the case then we might as well vote for Hillary because Rooty has less chance of getting my vote than Hillary does.


236 posted on 03/04/2007 1:24:18 AM PST by Hatband
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To: Mojave

MY GOD!!! HE WAS THE MAYOR OF THE MOST LIBERAL CITY ON THE PLANET AND HE IS HOSTING A GAY & LESBIAN BREAKFAST!!!!

Yes, that was shouting.


237 posted on 03/04/2007 1:26:58 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (The Clintons: A Malignant Malfeasance of the Most Morbid)
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To: FairOpinion
I think she knows he could have beaten her a** in that NY Senate race if he hadn't been diagnosed with prostate cancer. I thought he could have beaten her, too! If you recall they weren't to excited about their new resident Arkinsawyer, there in New York City. But she's a lib Dim so they'll keep her, but I imagine they have their own reservations!

Besides, people all over the country were campaigning for
Rudy for New York State Senator. I even had a sign in my front yard.

(sincerely I hope this makes sense, i just took my Ambien and I'm having a terrible time with this laptop Keyboard. It just seems to have a mind of its own!)
238 posted on 03/04/2007 1:46:46 AM PST by singfreedom ("Victory at all costs,.......for without victory there is no survival."--Churchill--that's "Winston")
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To: nopardons

["Giuliani is no more a Dem, than Reagan was, when he was president."]

Yeah. Uh huh. I was there. I saw Reagan, heard him, voted for him, and watched his presidency as it happened. And Rudy is no Reagan. Go ahead. Keep comparing Rudy w/ Ronaldus Magnus. You're really gonna make headway w/ that one./sarc


239 posted on 03/04/2007 1:52:35 AM PST by jim35 ("...when the lion and the lamb lie down together, ...we'd better damn sure be the lion")
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To: Kevmo

Oh. My. God. That's even worse than I thought.


240 posted on 03/04/2007 1:54:42 AM PST by jim35 ("...when the lion and the lamb lie down together, ...we'd better damn sure be the lion")
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