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State Makes Big Fuss Over Local Couple's Vegetable Oil Car Fuel (Told To Pay Taxes on Fuel or Else)
Heald Review ^ | 3/1/2007 | HUEY FREEMAN

Posted on 03/03/2007 11:14:08 AM PST by Dallas59

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To: Dallas59

This is all about government collecting tax revenue from present and future developments. Government cares little about alternative energy itself. Just taxes they believe they are entitled to before and above any other develpoment.


101 posted on 03/04/2007 6:35:41 AM PST by o_zarkman44
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To: lewislynn
You can produce until you're blue in the face and never pay tax.

Where did you ever get that idea?

102 posted on 03/04/2007 7:01:57 AM PST by Sarajevo
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To: patton

Well the good Senator didn't say all that stuff like it was a bad thing, necessarily.. ;)


103 posted on 03/04/2007 7:31:58 AM PST by Freedom4US (u)
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To: facedown

$0.00; sounds familiar.


104 posted on 03/04/2007 7:54:29 AM PST by sistergoldenhair
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To: gnarledmaw

Yes, I do. Calpernia "pings" me on a regular basis. I've stated many times that when the Feds show up to tag my laying hens, and any other animals I have at the time, it immediately becomes "Butchering Day" and I'll find another way to make some extra cash. ;)


105 posted on 03/04/2007 8:36:02 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: festus
They claimed I was past due on my $0.00 ...................

When I was attending college, back in the Pleistocene age, one semester I went through the usual check in procedure, picked courses, paid my tuition, etc. and a week later I got a notice that I owed $0.00 on my tuition and if I didn't pay it I might not be able to take my courses. I thought this was ridiculous so I just threw it away.

A week later I got a WARNING that if I didn't pay the $0.00 right away I might be dropped from my courses. I went over to the Bursar's office and showed them the notice and they just laughed and said it was just some goofy computer deal and not to worry about it, they would put a note in the computer.

A week later I got a ***FINAL NOTICE*** that if I didn't pay the $0.00 immediately I would be dropped from the course rolls. Soooooo, I wrote out a check for $0.00, put it with the notice in an envelope addressed to the University, care of the Bursar's office, and dropped it in the inbox at the cashier's window.

I didn't hear anything more about it from them, but the bank dutifully processed the check. I completed my studies without further incident.

106 posted on 03/04/2007 9:22:47 AM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: Yo-Yo
Gas taxes are abused without limit. They are used to fund all manner of state projects that reasonable people find unnecessary. Most states have provisions that unused or unallocated gas tax revenues go to the general fund.

There are two issues with this story and all stories like it (there are many, this is not an isolated example):

1. Why is this retiree singled out as a receiver and distributor? According to the story he was not reselling. It was the restaurant that let him have the used cooking oil. Obviously if the restaurant has to get a license, post a bond and pay a tax for this giveaway of used product, then they are highly likely to just say no to giveaways.

2. Many states (and their road maintenance/construction unions) have their eye on what people are doing with respect to 'going green'. They and their bloated salaries, pensions and perks are at risk of consumers finding a way around the established gas tax. In Oregon they went so far as to do a pilot study for GPS tracking and estimating mileage of vehicles to convert the gas tax to a mileage tax. It's absurd to build the complex machinery to track every vehicle and estimate their mileage. The estimating algorithms alone are inaccurate, and then there are issues of whether a vehicle goes over the border to a neighboring state. What then? The answer is tolling. Get on a road and pay the toll. Very similar to the Fair Tax concept , one pays for what one consumes, which in this case is road coverage.
107 posted on 03/04/2007 9:30:29 AM PST by Hostage
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To: NonValueAdded

Please stop being so accepting of government misbehavior and poor policy making.

Of course you should say they should NOT pay taxes for the used cooking oil. See post # 107 to find out why.

Also please have a look at the link website given in post #52.


108 posted on 03/04/2007 9:37:52 AM PST by Hostage
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To: facedown

I inquired with my bank about that option. Back in the Pleistocene age you didn't have to worry 'bout computers. They weren't sure but both they and I were concerned they'd actually refuse to honor the check.

That would mean the bank would charge me a bounced check fee and the IL Rev Dept would now have an actual fee to charge me.

The whole thing started because I was paying a small amount of sales tax on a small side venture of mine. I was late once and the penalty worked out to be less than $1.00 and apparently rounded to zero. Thus I was flagged as late and owing a penalty but the amount was declared to be zero.

;-)


109 posted on 03/04/2007 10:46:32 AM PST by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: Dallas59

-if this couple isn't selling the fuel what is the problem?


110 posted on 03/04/2007 10:50:44 AM PST by tioga
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To: Yo-Yo
Do users of plug in electrics also have to pay a special motor fuels tax on their electricity?

In Oregon up to a couple years ago owners of electric cars had to pay double the usual periodic registration fee to help make up for the fuel taxes they didn't pay. In the last legislature, they equalized them again (by raising the fees for everyone else to that level) - and of course doubled most other DMV fees as well. Oh yeah this was a Republican controlled legislature that did this. One of the reasons the GOP is no longer in power here IMO.

111 posted on 03/04/2007 2:27:55 PM PST by Clinging Bitterly (Oregon - a pro-militia and firearms state that looks just like Afghanistan .)
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To: Sarajevo
You can produce until you're blue in the face and never pay tax.
Where did you ever get that idea?
Tax laws. If you produce endlessly but sell nothing what is taxed?
112 posted on 03/04/2007 2:35:38 PM PST by lewislynn (I hope Obama, Osama,Obama, Osama,Obama, Osama enjoys his 10 minutes of fame.)
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To: lewislynn
If you produce endlessly but sell nothing what is taxed?

Capital gains, or one's estate, unfortunately.

113 posted on 03/04/2007 7:18:10 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: elkfersupper
Capital gains, or one's estate, unfortunately.
Apparently you don't understand the premise or the question.
114 posted on 03/04/2007 9:54:35 PM PST by lewislynn (I hope Obama, Osama,Obama, Osama,Obama, Osama enjoys his 10 minutes of fame.)
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To: traviskicks

This my FRiends is why we will never be free of foreign oil or petroleum. Those in power have a double interest, personal financial benefit and tax revenue to the state and fed. If it isn't taxed it's illegal and if it illustrates the uselessness of govt. solutions it is forced underground and then buried with extreme prejudice.


115 posted on 03/05/2007 7:31:50 AM PST by TheKidster (you can only trust government to grow, consolidate power and infringe upon your liberties.)
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To: alloysteel

If people understood the various methods that the US uses to collect revenue...they'd suddenly realize that changing the dynamics of life...could drasticaly cut into revenue earnings for IRS and state tax folks. Its the same way that they've made tobacco enemy number one but they won't put it in the same category as mary-j-u-wanna. If we ceased tobacco growth...then the government would take a huge revenue hit.


116 posted on 03/05/2007 7:39:18 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: Dallas59
Might be criminal to use Solar power without a license before too soon...

Everything not compulsory is forbidden.

117 posted on 03/05/2007 8:13:53 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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To: Dallas59

""I would agree that the bond is not acceptable, $2,500 bond," Watson said, adding that David Wetzel should be commended for his innovative efforts. "(His car) gets 46 miles per gallon running on vegetable oil. We all should be thinking about doing without gasoline if we're trying to end foreign dependency."



This is what commie regulation gets us. We cannot innovate because we're just not allowed. We don't have licenses to invent things that don't exist yet. We need permission from the nannies.


118 posted on 03/05/2007 8:17:24 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: Dallas59
Some little bureaucrat really got a bug up his butt about this one.
119 posted on 03/05/2007 8:26:04 AM PST by Zeroisanumber (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Man50D

Yes, and this way the sheople also do what the Commies like them to do - BLAME THE EVIL SELFISH COMPANIES for "charging too much".


120 posted on 03/05/2007 8:29:42 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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