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Brother and sister fight Germany's incest laws
The Guardian ^ | February 27, 2007

Posted on 03/02/2007 6:31:06 PM PST by DeerfieldObserver

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To: DeerfieldObserver

I found it!

Enjoy. Errr no don't.

http://www.browardpalmbeach.com/2006-09-28/news/daddy-s-girl/full


41 posted on 03/02/2007 7:27:48 PM PST by JRochelle (SuperBowl MVP Peyton Manning is a Republican!)
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To: AreaMan
Losertarian Ping...

Fricking knee-jerk idiot Ping. You don't know what the Hell you're talking about.

42 posted on 03/02/2007 7:29:20 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Good night Chesty, wherever you are!)
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To: DeerfieldObserver
Three of the children are in foster care, and two have unspecified disabilities.

No fooling. Talk about total selfishness on the part of these idiot so-called "parents". Sterilization isn't good enough for either of them.

43 posted on 03/02/2007 7:29:51 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: LibKill
Inbreeding does not work well.

I tried to tell that to a member of the KKK a while back. But of course I used the words "racial purity" instead.... Same results though, just look at the skin heads/KKK/neo-nazi's now and you'll realize where racial purity leads to.

-Traveler

44 posted on 03/02/2007 7:33:07 PM PST by Traveler59 (Truth is a journey, not a destination.)
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To: Graymatter
Nothing spells lovin' like marryin' your cousin !!!!!!!!!!!
45 posted on 03/02/2007 7:39:37 PM PST by ALASKA (IT'S NOT ROCKET SURGERY......................Don't just do something, STAND THERE!!!)
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To: DeerfieldObserver
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46 posted on 03/02/2007 8:15:02 PM PST by IYellAtMyTV (Workday Forecast--Increasing pressure towards afternoon. Rum likely by evening.)
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To: DeerfieldObserver

They already have four children.


47 posted on 03/02/2007 9:10:34 PM PST by FairOpinion (Tell Congress: Work for Victory in Iraq. Stop Hillary. Go to: http://www.TheVanguard.org)
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To: IYellAtMyTV

What's your point?
To me this is the face of American poverty.


48 posted on 03/02/2007 10:26:18 PM PST by LibreOuMort (Give me liberty, or give me death! (Patrick Henry))
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To: DeerfieldObserver

Incest? I thought the Germans were more into poo.


49 posted on 03/02/2007 10:28:37 PM PST by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich!)
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To: Graymatter

That home-schooling story has several different sides to it. This Melissa Busekros...has some type of emotional issue with school...either the stress of it or simply inability to study. The fact is that on grade points...the school failed her at the conclusion of the 2006 period (summer). They wanted her to repeat...which is kind of amusing that she was in the high-class atmosphere (gymnasium)...and mom probably could have gotten moved to easier classes at some local "Real" school (the middle school of the German system). But mom didn't want that. Mom went the route of home schooling...which is illegal by German law. The interesting point to this...there are other kids in the house...which stayed in the regular German school system...they didn't have issues. Adding to this mess...once this girl turns 16...if she wants to just do apprentice work and forget about school...she could do so. She is very close to that point of turning 16...so the school system could have looked the other way and forgot about this whole thing. Finally...the element of being in Bavaria also plays into this episode...they are pro-family and generally have a strong view of relgion in their minds. As of this week...the girl is still in government control...at a house which the parents know nothing about. The girl is brought once a week, by court-direction to a neutral site where the parents can see the girl.

If the parents really wanted to stir the pot here...they merely need to bring the story of the French hero...Joan of Arc...to this young girl held by the authorities...and simply give her the courage to rise above the German authorities. Joan of Arc had strength to lead a nation and a army...and even in prison...could not be held back.


50 posted on 03/02/2007 11:25:47 PM PST by pepsionice
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To: LibKill

No insult taken.


51 posted on 03/03/2007 12:51:56 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
I find it hard to believe in socialist-all-controlling Europe, where you cannot even name a child, without government approval, that incest is legal.

Medieval Roman Catholic "incest" laws (usually applied just to royalty and the upper classes) called "incest" things like marrying your brother's widow...or marrying a 5th Cousin (who has almost no genetic link to you--more than anyone else) or various other long distance seeming family relationship. Much of this was done to break up inheritance problems--and it went way beyond what the bible teaches as moral incest.

The Bible forbids: brother/sister, (and half siblings too) parent/child, uncle/niece or aunt/nephew unions. These are the closest relatives genetically--and which (as in the case of this couple) cause genetic defects in the kids. After the Protestant Reformation in the 1500s, laws were changed in Protestant countries to reflect the biblical injunctions, NOT the old elaborate Catholic ones.

Apparently cousins of any sort have never been forbidden to marry in the Bible, though, due to the Eugenics movement in the 1920s about half the US states have laws against 1st Cousins marrying (the other half do not...and no foreign country that I know of forbids cousins marrying (as weird as that seems...to me). I've read that the latest genetic research finds no significant risk of cousins marrying to theeir kids --even though I agree it just doesn't seem right. (Still probably half of our founding fathers, and very famous people in US history, married cousins....as it was extremely common in early America.)

The allowing of "incest" i.e. getting away from the old Catholic definitions of it, and changing the law to a narrow, genetically (and biblically) based definition MAY be what the article is talking about. I simply cannot imagine that in much of Europe there are no incest laws at all.

52 posted on 03/03/2007 7:05:59 AM PST by AnalogReigns
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To: pepsionice

I take it you must live in Germany. Is it really true that most European countries have no incest laws?


53 posted on 03/03/2007 2:45:32 PM PST by AnalogReigns
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
This is just asking for a child with a lot of disabilities.

Too late! From the article: Three of the children are in foster care, and two have unspecified disabilities

54 posted on 03/03/2007 9:56:17 PM PST by yhwhsman ("Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small..." -Sir Winston Churchill)
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