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To: go-dubya-04
I happen to agree with his evaluation of people who own and ride "personal watercraft". In general, a bunch of simple-minded jerks.

And I have no love for off road bikers who seemingly only go out in the woods in order to make noise and chew them up. :~)

In our local state forest we've arrived at a really good compromise... the forest is split in half. Motorized ORVs on one half, hikers, bicycles and horseman on the other. It works.

10 posted on 03/02/2007 4:01:33 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: no one in particular
When I mention our local state forest in my above post, it is the same one this guy talks about:

One of the few riding areas where it is still legal to ride in Western Washington is Capital State Forest near Olympia. There are a few parcels of private property located within the forest. This law, if passed, would effectively shut this area down.

While there are a few parcels of private land up there, I would have a hard time believing it would "virtually shut them down". While it's possible it might close a few trails near the perimeter of private property, it's a really big place.

First I've heard of this proposed legislation, while I am no fan of the noise ORVs make in any forest, it is a duty of any recreational forest user to defend the right of access of people to public lands. They should have a place. It just may not be all places.

12 posted on 03/02/2007 4:10:04 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog

Oh please. Nothing screws up hiking trails worse then those freaking shyt spewing four legged nags.


14 posted on 03/02/2007 4:17:55 PM PST by Seruzawa (Attila the Hun... wasn't he a liberal?)
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To: HairOfTheDog

I have a bit of an issue with the ATV'ers that have torn up my land, without so much as a by-your-leave.

I mean, they have done tens of thousands of dollars in damage, frankly.

But when the Doc complained (my nearest neighbor), he got burned out in the middle of the night.

So...we came to a compromise. They stay the hell away from my cabin, and I ignore the damage done to my land elsewhere.


29 posted on 03/02/2007 5:30:34 PM PST by patton (Sanctimony frequently reaps its own reward.)
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To: HairOfTheDog
In our local state forest we've arrived at a really good compromise... the forest is split in half. Motorized ORVs on one half, hikers, bicycles and horseman on the other. It works.

Sounds like a good compromise. Most of the time, I'm in the wilderness because I want the peace and quiet, and I would resent the noise and disruption of trail bikes and such.

On the other hand, I've seen the folks throwing their ATVs around the sand on Cape Hatteras, and that looks like a hell of a lot of fun. I would love to spend a long weekend with a MilSpec humvee with deflated tires and a tent in the back. And plenty of fine-mesh screening, because those sand fleas are a bitch.

54 posted on 03/03/2007 4:38:15 AM PST by ReignOfError (`)
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