[Clive]

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[keat]

Sorry Tommy, but if you wants to dance with the devil....

If you concede that human activity is affecting the climate in any measurable way, you've already given in. Haggling over the cost of compliance makes you look even more stupid.

[xcamel]

FReepmail me to get on or off

Click pn POGW graphic for full GW rundown

Ping me if you find one I've missed.

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Yup... Canada too.

[marron]

Nevertheless, the Green Party, numerous environmentalists and now apparently a majority of parliamentarians insist that we must meet this onerous target. Technically, we can if we are prepared to make massive sacrifices or if we are prepared to spend billions of dollars in purchasing foreign carbon credits...

Surely people must be catching on to the scam. First, as the article mentions, China is not covered. This makes Kyoto the "move your factory to China" treaty; the easiest way to meet the terms of the treaty is to build future factories in China.

Indeed, no one in their right mind wants to build a factory where they are not wanted.

Secondly, as the writer notes, the way to meet the terms of the treaty is to buy "carbon credits". These are obtained by paying some third world potentate not to develop his country, or buying up some swath of third world forest and putting it off limits to development even by the people who live there. That is a most perverse kind of colonialism, one in which first world people take over chunks of the undeveloped world, not to develop them, but to make sure no one does.

And the transactions, the trading of these "credits", are handled by the men in suits here in New York, Toronto, London.

Kyoto is a scam of the first order.

[keepitreal]

"Meeting this would be a gargantuan task. If we took all cars and trucks off the road and every aircraft, train and ship out of service, we might come close. If we no longer heated any home, commercial building or public institution in Canada, we would be less than halfway to the target. If we shut down all oilsands production tomorrow, we would only make a small dent in the needed reductions."

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Gee maybe you guys should have thought ahead before making commitments. I heard Algore is selling credits...

[USFRIENDINVICTORIA]

" The challenge is fundamental -- much more than not idling your car, using compact fluorescent light bulbs or turning down your thermostat."

This will come as a surprise to most people -- they've been led to believe that's all that's required. Or maybe that, plus drive a hybrid car. If anything else is required, the government has a magic wand for it. No one thinks they'll have to sacrifice anything.

[hinckley buzzard]

5. Finally, let's stop ignoring adaptation as one of the essential tools for coping with climate change. The reality is that the earth will continue to grow warmer even in the face of much more successful mitigation efforts

Now you're talking. Just let the market direct the adaptation, as needed, instead of the government, by prescription, and you've got a good idea there.

[sauropod]

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