Posted on 03/02/2007 8:40:17 AM PST by areafiftyone
All day today we are covering speakers and panels at the 34th Annual Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington, DC. This morning, we'll hear from Republican presidential hopeful former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani. He will be followed by Reps. Scott Garrett (NJ), Tom Tancredo (CO), and others.
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Exactly. The 3 main factions of the Republican coalition often threaten to take their ball and go home if they don't get their way.
And go where exactly??? Fiscal conservatives have no business with the tax and spend liberals on the left. Social conservatives have no business with the secular progressives on the left who cringe at the sight of a manger display. Moderate libertarians have no business with the social engineering, paternalistic left.
We're stuck with each other. I'm going to go watch Rudy's speach on C-Span right now for myself. I'll make up my own mind.
I just watched the replay of the Giuliani speech. It was one of the worst political speeches I've witnessed in my life. Absolutely pathetic.
No kidding EV? I missed it : )
"The answer is in my statements like these:
I've already stated that FR will probably become even more conservative than it already is, through attrition if nothing else. Besides continuing to champion the defense of America, FR just might become the "Conservative Conscience of the Republican Party," ie, we may become a real thorn in the side of moderate/liberal Republicanism. Someone has to try defend the party from completely tossing out traditional American conservatism. Might as well be us.
How many times must I say FR is a conservative site? We do not support abortionism, homosexualism, feminisim, environmentalism, gun control, liberalism, socialism, etc, etc, etc. When I say I suspect we will become even more conservative than we already are, possibly via attrition if nothing else, what do you think I'm referring to? When FR starts pushing hard and I mean hard against abortion, gay marriage, homosexual education forced on our school children, pandering to illegal aliens, gun control, McCaine-Feingold type usurpation, global warming, etc, etc, even if supported or advanced by the GOP, then I fully suspect certain types of moderate/liberal Republican supporters are probably going to be a little uncomfortable here. We will be fighting for traditional American conservatism no matter who we have to fight against and I'm afraid that's going to piss off some folks.
And I'll borrow a slogan used by the NFRA that I realy like:
"We are the 'Republican' Wing of the Republican Party!""
And that is why FR is yours. Thank you Mr. Robinson!!
"The answer is in my statements like these:
I've already stated that FR will probably become even more conservative than it already is, through attrition if nothing else. Besides continuing to champion the defense of America, FR just might become the "Conservative Conscience of the Republican Party," ie, we may become a real thorn in the side of moderate/liberal Republicanism. Someone has to try defend the party from completely tossing out traditional American conservatism. Might as well be us.
How many times must I say FR is a conservative site? We do not support abortionism, homosexualism, feminisim, environmentalism, gun control, liberalism, socialism, etc, etc, etc. When I say I suspect we will become even more conservative than we already are, possibly via attrition if nothing else, what do you think I'm referring to? When FR starts pushing hard and I mean hard against abortion, gay marriage, homosexual education forced on our school children, pandering to illegal aliens, gun control, McCaine-Feingold type usurpation, global warming, etc, etc, even if supported or advanced by the GOP, then I fully suspect certain types of moderate/liberal Republican supporters are probably going to be a little uncomfortable here. We will be fighting for traditional American conservatism no matter who we have to fight against and I'm afraid that's going to piss off some folks.
And I'll borrow a slogan used by the NFRA that I realy like:
"We are the 'Republican' Wing of the Republican Party!""
And that is why FR is yours. Thank you Mr. Robinson!!
"The answer is in my statements like these:
I've already stated that FR will probably become even more conservative than it already is, through attrition if nothing else. Besides continuing to champion the defense of America, FR just might become the "Conservative Conscience of the Republican Party," ie, we may become a real thorn in the side of moderate/liberal Republicanism. Someone has to try defend the party from completely tossing out traditional American conservatism. Might as well be us.
How many times must I say FR is a conservative site? We do not support abortionism, homosexualism, feminisim, environmentalism, gun control, liberalism, socialism, etc, etc, etc. When I say I suspect we will become even more conservative than we already are, possibly via attrition if nothing else, what do you think I'm referring to? When FR starts pushing hard and I mean hard against abortion, gay marriage, homosexual education forced on our school children, pandering to illegal aliens, gun control, McCaine-Feingold type usurpation, global warming, etc, etc, even if supported or advanced by the GOP, then I fully suspect certain types of moderate/liberal Republican supporters are probably going to be a little uncomfortable here. We will be fighting for traditional American conservatism no matter who we have to fight against and I'm afraid that's going to piss off some folks.
And I'll borrow a slogan used by the NFRA that I realy like:
"We are the 'Republican' Wing of the Republican Party!""
And that is why FR is yours. Thank you Mr. Robinson!!
Could you repeat that?
You and me both, my friend.
I just watched the same speech. I thought he was great. (although I'll give you my complaints) This is an absolutely great philosophical and psychological study into how two people can watch the same event and have two entirely different opinions.
Sort of like watching the Iraq War coverage on Fox vs al Jazeera or CNN (Caliphate News Network). Fox shows the brilliant fireworks display and the fancy video game type graphics from the F-16 camera. al Jazeera shows the results of that bombing 24/7 on a continuous loop with little children covered with blood and women with missing limbs crying in pain. Of course, nobody knows if those injuries happened as a result of the terrorists or us, but that's besides the point. Propaganda and emotion are the key.
What didn't you like about it?
My favorite part was when he talked about the socialist education system and insisted that free markets, competition and capitalism is the answer to the problem.
However, I cringed when he mentioned Ronald Reagan 1,076 times (This from a guy like me who has a poster of Reagan in his bedroom). I'm not sure if my count is accurate, I lost track after the 787th reference. How about instead of being the next Ronald Reagan, you try to be the first Rudy Giuliani.
I'll ask you again, what was your specific complaint?
...and a creme brule, a fine single malt scotch, a Cohiba, a 50% tip and a cab ride home.
He did a great job in spite of what the Anti-Rudy Oompa Loompas* say.
*Anti-Rudy Oompa Loompas: Necessary to the plot, but still repetitive and annoying.
Oh good grief!!!! It was the pregnant belly holding down the button on the laptop. How embarrassing!!! ( Whew...blame it on the baby..saved myself this time!) ;o)
When are you due?
Not until August! What can I say? I'm short and show instantly! That's how I know I'm pregnant. When the belly shows, I know!
It's going to be a long, hot Missouri summer for you!
Too many to recount here. But here's a couple:
First of all, style: He was boring, boring, boring. One of his staffers should have sent out the hook about a third of the way in. 45 minutes? Sheesh. He was uncomfortable, nervous, stammering. Made me uneasy.
Incoherent. He'd start a sentence, stop, go in another direction and never make it back to where he started. He did this constantly throughout the speech. It was maddening.
His statements on fighting our enemies were weak, weak, weak. He kept saying we need to persuade our enemies...that our enemies would become our friends. How naive and silly can you get? We're talking about terrorists here. Sheesh.
He said something like, "We're not better than anybody else" in the world. Like hell we're not.
He kept talking about public education like any Democrat would talk. I wanted to throw up.
He talked about "bringing people out of poverty" or somesuch like he was Lyndon Johnson or something. I'll have to go back and read a full transcript to catch all that drivel.
Nothing presidential about this man at all. Nada.
Ugh! Don't I know it! I have 2 September babies and a November 1st baby. Just once I'd like to have one in the middle of winter!!! My electric bill is going to be atrocious!
ROFL...brilliant!
It was a great speech. Nobody on the GOP side can match his speaking abilities, and only Obama on the Dem side.
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