A call for help - then things got worse

The Philadelphia Inquirer ^ | 03/02/2007 | A call for help - then things got worse

[grjr21]

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[DocRock]

"Police did not recover bullet fragments removed from Estevez during surgery."

Yeah... sure...

[gunnyg]

Kinda makes one wonder how the police ever evolved (?) to this point, huh? Well...see below.... CLICK-HERE!!!!!

[End Times Sentinel]

At a time when more people in Philadelphia are being fatally shot by police than in any other big city, what happened that February night raises questions about how well the department polices itself in civilian shootings.

Leave it to the Inky to zero in on this as a major problem.  We have a criminal in the Mayor's office, at least three in city council, our State Senate Rep., a police force forbidden to enforce laws against mexicans, and a bunch of liberal judges who let violent criminals back out on the streets lest their feelings be hurt.

Owl_Eagle

If what I just wrote made you sad or angry,
it was probably just a joke.

[org.whodat]

Dial 911 and get shot, today's police at work.

[Zeppo]

"I heard a lot about Philadelphia. I heard it was good."

Clearly you were misinformed...

[eastforker]

I would never call 911 untill my house was secure or I was laying in a pool of blood.

[GrandEagle]

An Internal Affairs report on the ...
"Internal affairs" and "investigate" are two mutually exclusive terms. It's like getting the Fox to watch the hen house.
About 15 years ago I called because of an incident (nothing like a shooting) that happened to my wife, where an officer of the Mobile PD shot my wife the bird because she wouldn't make an illegal turn to get out of his way. He had no lights or siren on.
I called to complain and was referred to internal affairs. In the next two weeks I got 4 speeding tickets. One was right in front of our apartment when I was leaving for work. I hadn't even pulled out on the road yet!

There are some fine officers without a doubt, but they generally tend to stick together. It is IMHO virtually impossible to trust the outcome of an "internal" investigation.

The officers involved in this incident should be personally charged with restitution to this man and belong in jail for a long time.

[GrandEagle]

Clearly you were misinformed
LOL! Depends on how you define "brotherly love", and what you think about it, I suppose...

[GrandEagle]

Excellent link - thanks for posting it.

[FreedomPoster]

I hope some of the "defend the police for anything" crowd around here, reads that.

It is events like that, that make us extremely suspicious of all police.

[EdReform]

Dial 911 and Die

[AlaskaErik]

And the liberals want us to rely on 911 for our own protection. A Glock in the hand beats a dispatcher on the line any day of the week.

[Thunder90]

I think that the guy should sue Phildelphia for defamation of character and back damages.

[GrandEagle]

Generally they just deny it ever happened.
I do believe that we should be able to give the police the benefit of the doubt, but we should never just ignore facts. I don't trust them much at all anymore unless they work for an ELECTED Sheriff. Even then I am suspicious. I really believe that unbelievably low pay exacerbates the problem in that the standards have to be lowered to meet hiring requirements. You end up attracting huge egos instead of folks who honestly respect the citizens and the law.
The trend over the last 25 years of so has been to federalize the local police forces, creating an us against them mentality – on both sides. That is never good.

I moved out of Mobile to get away from the city police and their egos. Unfortunately, we just elected the police chief as Sheriff.

[hophead]

"At a time when more people in Philadelphia are being fatally shot by police than in any other big city,"



I thought Philly had very strict gun laws. I think they wanted to adopt DC's gun laws.

[cpdiii]

Call 911 to do the paper work. Call Mr. Colt, Mr. Para, or Mr. Springfield at 1911 to save your butt. An individual most always think to himself, "am I in fear of my life or someone around in fear of imminent deadly danger." If the answer is yes, pull the the trigger and try and kill the bad guy. Call 911, render aid to the man you just shot, preferably multiply times, say nothing else to 911 except there is a person in need of help because of a shooting and there is no longer any danger. Put you weapon down, tell the police you will be fully cooperative after you speak with your lawyer. Do not say one damn thing until you speak to your lawyer and do exactly what he says.

[EdReform]

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