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To: Yossarian

Do you remember the big tent GOP that used to win national landslide elections in 49 states?


325 posted on 04/25/2007 11:39:09 AM PDT by meg88
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To: meg88

remember the big tent GOP
***That makes for a good segway into my anti-opus/supo that talks about why Rudy isn’t a big tent republican.

Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1821435/posts?page=6245#6245

Posted by Kevmo to All
On News/Activism 04/23/2007 8:55:57 PM PDT · 6,245 of 8,936

I’ve been thinking about all these opuses. Yah, I know, the plural of opus is opera. Some of these opera have a melodramatic, soap opera quality to them. On the drive home I was thinking about what I could do to counter the ill will being generated and try to figure out what socons in good standing can say, other than “Good Bye”. The whining, sickening, grating tone of the opera would need to be reversed into a positive, edifying, and hopeful tone. Instead of crying about what is going wrong with Free Republic, it would be a reinforcement about what is going RIGHT with Free Republic.

What should I call such a message? “Opus” is a Latin word for “work”. So I started with looking for a latin word for “play”. I found this well written article for the entymology:: http://www.erasmatazz.com/library/JCGD_Volume_8/Play_Mentation.html The English word “lechery” is the only surviving remnant in English of the Old Germanic root” leik, leikan”, to play. Also striking is the fact that the Latin word for play, ludere, survives in English in”lewd”. Ok, strike that idea. So how about OpusBAR, or OppoOpus, or counter-opus, reverse osmopus, or Nopus, or Opthem or some similar play on words? Well, none of them rang clear. One that I like is to write out Opus backwards: SUPO. And since we see so many opera from freepers like Pukin Dog who leave & return multiple times, we would need to come up with a good plural for the word. Going back to Latin, I came up with Supoii, which would be a person’s second Supo, and Supoiii would be their third, Supoiv their fourth, Supov & Supovi their 5th & 6th respectively, etc. I would encourage other social conservatives to start posting Supo on this thread.

So here’s Kevmo’s first Supo,

Kevmo SUPOI

Free Republic is great! When I signed up 9 years ago, just 2 months after JimRob’s signon date, it seemed like it wasn’t going to be around for very long. It was kinda hokey, and there were a lot of conspiracy theorists, and there was a nervousness in the air about the Clinton’s clamping down on their political adversaries. Even my stupid login name reflected this transient approach to it all. I couldn’t think of what to log on with, and I didn’t want to be Kevin O’Malley because I’d be painting a target on my back, I didn’t want to be audited for my political outspokenness, so that was my login: Don’t Wanna Be Audited. I know, I know, lame. But I noticed that the whole underlying premise for the place was a respect for the constitution, it was pro-life, pro-God, Pro-2nd Amendment, Pro-Lotsa things that I felt kinship with. It was people who thought like me. I felt I was at home in a political sense. There was also this seething anger towards what the Clintons had done to the office of the presidency, and I identified with that. I was impressed that someone like Jim Robinson went to so much trouble and used the gifts God gave him to create an atmosphere where social conservatives could feel comfortable. I haven’t had all that much time to devote to my little hobby here at Free Republic.

Since I signed on I have finished up school, started my career (very late bloomer, long story), bought a house, got involved in local church leadership, watched my 2 kids be born, went to both of my parents’ funerals, and many of the other ups & downs that are normal in life. I got caught in the Free Republic Database Snafu and lost my login for awhile, then couldn’t even remember what the login name was, went into Lurker mode for a time and then signed up again with my real name, Kevin OMalley. I didn’t think much about my login until Joe Six Pack posted this on New Year’s Eve 2004: Disenfranchised Freeper been here 6 years 4 months 3 million hours, 12 days and a leap year http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-rlc/1311585/posts. Then when Dan Rather was brought down by Freepers, a low Freeper number became a coveted item and I decided to reclaim my old login. JimRob was very gracious in letting me change my stupid login name to something more like a nickname. “Kevmo” was some kind of musician that a coworker had listened to, he was calling me Kevmo and it kinda stuck so I went with that as my login.

I’m amazed that more than a quarter of a million people have signed up for posting privileges on FR. It has become and will continue to be the premiere news forum on the web, and that is in no small part due to the underlying social conservative principles that drive its founder and others who pour their blood, sweat & tears into this Opus of unselfish love. There’s one freeper whose tag line says something like, when he reads a newspaper he scans down to the bottom to read the comments and that is about where I’m at with my comfort level of FR. It is like reading the paper and then going into a harangue that everyone hears. If you can express yourself at least as good as the average half wit, you might be able to affect the present discourse. It is SO COOL. Thanks, JimRob for doing this. I’ve grown so comfortable with FR that, basically for the last 7 or 8 years, I haven’t even subscribed to a newspaper. I hardly ever watch TV News. But my wife notices that I’m way ahead on the news cycles compared to her friends. She sometimes will ask me about “what that website has to say” about such & such item in the news lately. When I first came home talking about Clinton’s mistress & how all this stuff was an impeachable offense for Clinton, she asked me if that was just some conspiracy theory I heard of and if maybe there were other “normal” people who had heard about it. About a MONTH later, other people started talking about it. Now, I’m usually only about 2 days ahead of the cycle, so everyone else has caught up to Free Republic. But we’re still often at the bleeding edge.

Free Republic is a place where people pray for you, give advice, don’t take nonsense, and help keep your wits sharpened. There appears to have been some folks who are die-hard republicans and signed up with the hopes of changing social conservative viewpoints. That was a mistake because those are bedrock principles, not negotiable checklist items. How can you tell when you’re up against bedrock principles vs. negotiable bargaining chips? When you’re in a discussion and the other side simply walks out or holds their ground & calls them deal killers.

Here’s an analogy to work with. Take a small box and fill it with some rocks. Then add some rice, filling it to the top. Now take all the same stuff, but in a different order. Put in the rice first, then add the rocks. What you’ll find is that if you put in the big stuff first, the small stuff will fit around it. But if you put in the small stuff first, the big stuff won’t have room. The republican tent is the box. The Big issues are the socon issues, to be put in first. The little issues are things that can be accommodated around the bigger stuff. A candidate who tries to focus on the smaller issues first and leave out the bigger issues has no way of getting all of us into the tent. He splits the party. The candidate who gets the big stuff right and as much of the little stuff that will fit, he can fit more into the tent. We’re often amazed at how much rice can keep fitting in. Rudy Giuliani flunks some of the big issues, and on some of the little issues it looks to me like anyone else’s rice would do just as well. All that remains for us to agree on is which are the bedrock principles and which are not. Why would there be so much invective aimed at rudy from the right? Because there are some bedrock principles that he is leaving out. Bad move. I see rudybot postings all the time saying that they would vote for Hunter, and I see socon postings that say they would not vote for rudy. That’s a BIG indicator of a few bedrock principles that are being left outside the tent in order to let in some rice.

Well, I don’t want to rant on for too long. Free Republic is a great place and JimRob will allow dissent as long as it is truth-filled and respectful. People don’t lose their posting privileges just because they support one candidate over another – they lose their privileges over HOW they choose to support that candidate. If I wanted to support my socially conservative candidate, Duncan Hunter, on a social liberal website, it would behoove me to be polite about it, answer the questions posted to me, keep to the truth, and be respectful.
Since we’re on JimRob’s site and it is his private property, we don’t need to quibble about the definition of conservative, we just use his basic definition of social conservative:

As a conservative site, Free Republic is pro-God, pro-life, pro-family, pro-Constitution, pro-Bill of Rights, pro-gun, pro-limited government, pro-private property rights, pro-limited taxes, pro-capitalism, pro-national defense, pro-freedom, and-pro America. We oppose all forms of liberalism, socialism, fascism, pacifism, totalitarianism, anarchism, government enforced atheism, abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, racism, wacko environmentalism, judicial activism, etc. We also oppose the United Nations or any other world government body that may attempt to impose its will or rule over our sovereign nation and sovereign people. We believe in defending our borders, our constitution and our national sovereignty.

If you signed up on Free Republic but aren’t aligned with that definition, you should at least be honest with yourself when you engage in debate. You don’t have to be a socon to post on this socon site. But you should not try to re-define social conservatism for your own purposes. It won’t work.


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327 posted on 04/25/2007 11:43:28 AM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: meg88
Do you remember the big tent GOP that used to win national landslide elections in 49 states?

HOGWASH!

Ronald Reagan operated a CONSERVATIVE tent, not a "big" tent!!!

The term "big tent" didn't come into play until the lead-up to GHW Bush's election in '88.

QUIT TRYING TO REWRITE HISTORY! THIS IS ONE OF THE DISHONEST THINGS THAT RUDYBOTS ARE ALWAYS DOING THAT DRIVES US NUTS!

328 posted on 04/25/2007 11:45:39 AM PDT by Yossarian (Everyday, somewhere on the globe, somebody is pushing the frontier of stupidity...)
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To: meg88; Yossarian

“Do you remember the big tent GOP that used to win national landslide elections in 49 states?”


I remember Ronald Reagan having a tent big enough to win 44 states in 1980 and 49 states in 1984, and he didn’t do it by being pro-partial-birth-abortion, pro-special-rights-for-gays, pro-gun-control, or pro-government-spending, but by attracting socially conservative blue-collar Democrats. Rudy Giuliani would have NO CHANCE attracting the Reagan Democrats that put George W. Bush over the top in 2000 and 2004 and that put him within 5% of also carrying Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin and Minnesota (which would have given him 35 states and 344 electoral votes).


332 posted on 04/25/2007 11:57:53 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (http://auh2orepublican.blogspot.com/)
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To: meg88
"Do you remember the big tent GOP that used to win national landslide elections in 49 states?"

Do you remember the Reagan Revolution? Thought not.

339 posted on 04/25/2007 12:04:56 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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