Posted on 02/28/2007 12:44:30 PM PST by NormsRevenge
To compensate for every pollution-spewing private jet ride he takes, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger wants to plant or protect trees. He is beginning his effort with the Fred M. van Eck Forest Foundation, which has 2,100 acres in Humboldt County. This "off-set" is designed to make Schwarzenegger carbon neutral - it effectively reduces the amount of global warming gases his travel is producing. ...
But he might want to read a report by the Carnegie Institution and the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory. They found that planting and protecting forests in subarctic Boreal zones may actual contribute to global warming. And they documented "little or no climate benefit when trees are planted" in temperate zones, such as California. Instead, tropical forests should be protected because they absorb carbon dioxide and produce clouds that cool the planet. By the year 2100, forests in mid and high latitudes will make some places up to 10 degrees warmer than if the forests did not exist, the report found.
"The darkening of the surface by new forest canopies in the high latitude Boreal regions allows absorption of more sunlight that helps to warm the surface. In fact, planting more trees in high latitudes could be counterproductive from a climate perspective," said Govindasamy Bala, lead author of the research that will be presented on Dec. 15 at the American Geophysical Society annual meeting in San Francisco.
(Excerpt) Read more at latimesblogs.latimes.com ...
Schwarzenegger To Put His Jet On Global Warming Registry
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/politicalmuscle/2007/02/schwarzenegger__8.html
Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger leaves a big environmental footprint for one man, specifically with his frequent use of private jets to ferry him throughout California and the world. His two estates are large enough to house small villages. And the champion of environmental controls to curb global warming pumps far more carbon dioxide into the atmosphere than an ordinary citizen, by far. He is driven everywhere in a caravan of two black SUVs and, sometimes, a lead sedan.
Depending on the private jet he chooses from NetJets - usually it's a relatively large one, to include staff and CHP bodyguards - Schwarzenegger and his posse could dump as much as 8,700 pounds of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere for a single one-hour flight from Santa Monica to Sacramento, according to data from TerraPass, the carbon retailer.
The governor has favored Gulfstream jets like the one pictured below, which he used in 1997 to promote "Batman and Robin." Helium Report has a chart showing how much private jets like that can pollute. By contrast, a single person traveling alone on a commercial flight from L.A. to Sacramento contributes 477 pounds of carbon dioxide to the atmosphere.
I wonder if he would be willing to plant a row of ash trees along the Southern facing of my new property. I could use about 20 mature ones.
This "off-set" is designed to make Schwarzenegger carbon neutral - it effectively reduces the amount of global warming gases his travel is producing. ...
"Carbon Neutral"..I HATE those words.
What crap
That's OK, none of the proposals will have little or no impact on global warming. But it sure makes them feel better.
Has anyone done a study on how much carbon is fixed into the wood of each tree as it grows?
Did ya buy some serious acreage or a big lot?
Your property is not fair, and will only lead to destruction. You need to be taught a lesson./s
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1792651/posts?page=12#12
"By the year 2100, forests in mid and high latitudes will make some places up to 10 degrees warmer than if the forests did not exist, the report found."
Did they seriously mean to type this out? That means, if I read it correctly, that forests in California actually make the globe warmer and that it would be better if they did not exist??
Then I say, let the loggers loose, it's all for the sake of the children and climate change/global warming/next impending doom.
--http://www.rapidcityjournal.com/
Working on a deal one 2.5 acre lot for our new home. (on a hill next to a vineyard, facing the Sierras)
If planting trees helps cause global warming, then global warming is a good thing.
Bet his footprint is smaller than Nancy Pelosi's.
After one day of hearing the word "offsets" associated with carbon footprints, I sick of the word offsets.
lots of room for stuff; playground, orchard, garden, bbq and horseshoe pits,, sounds good..
guest house, pool, gazebo
Clouds warm the planet, especially in the winter time. They help keep warm air trapped rather than it escaping into space at night. That's why when it's clear at night in the winter, it's always very cold, when overcast, it's much warmer.
These global warming "scientists" don't know what the heck they are talking about.
Here's one: http://www.sampsongroup.com/Papers/Monitoring%20and%20Measuring%20Wood%20Carbon.pdf
Obviously, it varies, but roughly speaking, a tree is half carbon. Thus, a one ton tree (including root mass, making for a fairly small tree) contains about 1000 pounds of carbon.
Virtually all of the carbon in a tree comes from the air. This is accomplished by cracking CO2, incorporating the carbon into the structure of the tree, and releasing the oxygen back into the air. This is driven by solar power (photosynthesis).
To get 1000 pounds of carbon into the tree, it absorbs 3,667 pounds of CO2, keeps the 1000 pounds of carbon, and releases the 2,667 pounds of oxygen left over. Yes, CO2 is made up mostly of oxygen. By mass CO2 is 12/44 carbon, and 32/44 oxygen.
Another way of looking at this is to say that one ton tree has removed about 1.8 tons of carbon dioxide from the atmosphere, in order to grow to its current size.
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