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US Accused On 'Missing' Prisoners
BBC ^ | 2-28-2007

Posted on 02/28/2007 10:20:53 AM PST by blam

US accused on 'missing' prisoners

The CIA allegedly flew secret detainees in unmarked jets

Thirty eight people believed to have been held in secret CIA prisons - or black sites - are missing, according to a report by a US human rights group. The Human Rights Watch (HRW) report also details allegations of torture by a terror suspect who was held in secret custody for more than two years.

The group has asked US President George W Bush to reveal the location of these detainees and close all US black sites.

Last year Mr Bush said the prisons had all closed and had not used torture.

'Missing' prisoners

In a televised address in September, Mr Bush admitted that 14 detainees had been held at secret CIA prisons that used interrogation methods that were "tough" but "lawful and necessary".

"The United States does not torture," Mr Bush said at the time. "It's against our laws, and it's against our values. I have not authorised it - and I will not authorise it."

He said the prisoners had since been transferred to the US military camp at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and the CIA was not holding any more terror suspects.

But in a report published on Tuesday, HRW has named another 38 people who were believed to have been held in secret CIA prisons, who are now missing.

Quoting US intelligence officials, The Washington Post says more than 60 people have been held in the prisons since 2001.

'Beaten and burned'

The group has called on the US to reveal the location of all detainees held by the CIA since 2001 and end its "illegal" secret detention and interrogation programmes.

Palestinian Islamic extremist Marwan al-Jabour told HRW he saw or spoke to a number of those named in the report while he was held by the CIA between 2004 and 2006.

John B Bellinger III has attacked EU probes into secret CIA flights

Mr Jabour, who was arrested in Lahore, Pakistan in May 2004, also detailed torture tactics he says were used against him while he was in US custody.

He says at various periods during his 28-month detention Pakistani authorities kept him naked and chained to a ceiling. He says he was beaten, burned and handcuffed in stress positions.

During this time he was also reportedly interrogated by US agents for hours on end, but Mr Jabour says he was only tortured when the Americans were not around.

Mr Jabour admits that in 1998 he trained in Afghanistan in the hope of fighting in Chechnya. He also says he helped Arab militants who had fled Afghanistan for Pakistan in 2003, but he denies any links to al-Qaeda or terror activities.

EU threat

Meanwhile, the US has warned the European Union that ongoing inquiries into secret CIA flights within Europe linked to the black sites are threatening intelligence ties between Europe and the US.

The investigations "have not been helpful with respect to necessary co-operation between the United States and Europe," John Bellinger, legal adviser to US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, said.

Mr Bellinger also labelled a European Parliament report into the flights, released earlier this month, as "unbalanced, inaccurate and unfair".


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cia; missing; prisoners; us
Does anyone know how many American citizens are still 'missing' at the WTC site?
1 posted on 02/28/2007 10:20:58 AM PST by blam
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To: blam

The EU can bite our collective nutsac. Sod Off socialists.


2 posted on 02/28/2007 10:21:45 AM PST by MARKUSPRIME
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The Human Rights Watch (HRW) report also details allegations of torture by a terror suspect who was held in secret custody for more than two years.

And...we should believe this story because...?

3 posted on 02/28/2007 10:23:27 AM PST by atomicpossum (Replies must follow approved guidelines or you will be kill-filed without appeal.)
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To: blam
Human Rights Watch

The PR arm of the International Communist Party.

4 posted on 02/28/2007 10:24:29 AM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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"...he was also reportedly interrogated by US agents for hours on end, but Mr Jabour says he was only tortured when the Americans were not around."

So...where's the problem as far as the USA is concerned?

5 posted on 02/28/2007 10:27:01 AM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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This is like Jack Bauer trying to do his job with the frigging ACLU riding shotgun.

This stuff is so disgusting.


6 posted on 02/28/2007 10:27:07 AM PST by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: MARKUSPRIME

I couldn't say it better myself.


7 posted on 02/28/2007 10:27:12 AM PST by SIDENET (Voting for a liberal doesn't advance Conservatism.)
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To: blam
Dear The Human Rights Watch...


8 posted on 02/28/2007 10:28:04 AM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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[Meanwhile, the US has warned the European Union that ongoing inquiries into secret CIA flights within Europe linked to the black sites are threatening intelligence ties between Europe and the US...The investigations "have not been helpful with respect to necessary co-operation between the United States and Europe," John Bellinger]

Talk is cheap. Do something or STFU.


9 posted on 02/28/2007 10:29:26 AM PST by backbencher (Nancy Pelosi sends her regards to the non-voting "real conservatives".)
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OH NO! the question, will they find our about our secret prison in the North Pole? or maybe our Mars one.. those folks are as dumb as a sack of rocks.


10 posted on 02/28/2007 10:29:27 AM PST by gulfcoast6
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Check the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean.


11 posted on 02/28/2007 10:29:27 AM PST by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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The group has asked US President George W Bush to reveal the location of these detainees

"What detainees?" asked an incredulous Mr. Bush.

Human Rights Watch my a$$. I poop on their shoes. (:^D)

12 posted on 02/28/2007 10:29:44 AM PST by bikerMD (Beware, the light at the end of the tunnel may be a muzzle flash.)
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Thirty eight people believed to have been held in secret CIA prisons...

So if the HRW whackjobs don't know who the CIA is allegedly holding, how can they call for them to be released? Why not ask for the Stay-Puft Marshmellow Man while they are asking for assumed prisoners to be released?

13 posted on 02/28/2007 10:29:48 AM PST by Quick or Dead
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To: gulfcoast6

I've got a secret prison in the basement of my house.

Ooops.....


14 posted on 02/28/2007 10:38:29 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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Oh the Huge Manatee! Eff 'em!


15 posted on 02/28/2007 10:41:30 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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"The CIA allegedly flew secret detainees in unmarked jets"

They must have taken a smoke break outside in midflight and for some reason didn't return.


16 posted on 02/28/2007 10:41:59 AM PST by Leg Olam ("Somethings got to go, either me or that wallpaper.." last words, Oscar Wilde)
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7 out of 8 have since died fighting in Afgahnistan and Iraq since being released?


17 posted on 02/28/2007 11:02:52 AM PST by kajingawd (Humans share 50.6% of their DNA with bananas...most my friends are bananas)
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RE: Missing Prisoners

In an aircraft high above the Mediterranean.

CIA Agent:According to this manifest, we had 25 prisoners back there at take off and they were recounted and all accounted for after we reached altitude. I just checked on them and there are only 18 back there. Where are the rest of them?

Special Forces troop: Geez, I don't know. Last time I was back there some of them were screaming they were going to jump out of the plane and kill themselves rather then be kept prisoner. Maybe some of them got loose and jumped?

CIA Agent: What? The hatch back there is locked. If 7 of them committed suicide and all the rest are still tied up, who locked the hatch after they jumped?

Special Forces troop:Well, you know those bastards are really sneaky. (shrugs shoulders and walks away.)
18 posted on 02/28/2007 11:48:17 AM PST by Eagles Talon IV
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