Posted on 02/28/2007 9:56:17 AM PST by Peach
Not since Teddy Roosevelt took on Tammany Hall a century ago has a New York politician closely linked to urban reform looked like presidential timber. But today ex–New York mayor Rudy Giuliani sits at or near the top of virtually every poll of potential 2008 presidential candidates. Already, Giuliani’s popularity has set off a “stop Rudy” movement among cultural conservatives, who object to his three marriages and his support for abortion rights, gay unions, and curbs on gun ownership. Some social conservatives even dismiss his achievement in reviving New York before 9/11.
An August story on the website Right Wing News, for instance, claims that Giuliani governed Gotham from “left of center.” Similarly, conservatives have been feeding the press a misleading collection of quotations by and about Giuliani, on tax policy and school choice issues, assembled to make him look like a liberal.
But in a GOP presidential field in which cultural and religious conservatives may find something to object to in every candidate who could really get nominated (and, more important, elected), Giuliani may be the most conservative candidate on a wide range of issues. Far from being a liberal, he ran New York with a conservative’s priorities: government exists above all to keep people safe in their homes and in the streets, he said, not to redistribute income, run a welfare state, or perform social engineering.
The private economy, not government, creates opportunity, he argued; government should just deliver basic services well and then get out of the private sector’s way. He denied that cities and their citizens were victims of vast forces outside their control, and he urged New Yorkers to take personal responsibility for their lives.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=26604
Like Lipstick on a pig...
Gosh, the main-stream-media loves Rudy so much... we should be glad they want us to have him as our candidate.
Recommending a "Rudy" forum. This is getting out of hand.
Yes, Giuliani is a "conservative" that supports abortion on demand, the homosexual agenda, the idea of man-made global warming and gun control. Fiscally, he dramatcially increased spending in his last term in office in New York City.
Conservatives can't possible make any progress in this nation when too many alleged conservatives are STUPID enough to believe RINOs that are liberal on issue after issue are conservative.
That makes the thread title a glaring lie.
>>>Recommending a "Rudy" forum. This is getting out of hand.
I find the hate-Rudy vitriol to be equally distasteful. Mind you, I don't agree with his every position, but he's being needlessly excoriated around here.
Well, DUH! Add his new adoption of Global Warming, amnesty for illegals, acceptance of horrific partial birth abortion and embryonic stem cell research. Those tend to push social conservatives' hot buttons.
Far from being a liberal, he ran New York with a conservative’s priorities: government exists above all to keep people safe in their homes and in the streets, he said, not to redistribute income, run a welfare state, or perform social engineering.
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I wonder how Rudy's blatantly pro-illegal immigrant support and welfare benefits posture fits into this description ?? If it isn't welfare and redistribution of wealth, what is it ?? Rudy is NOT a social conservative, by any stretch of the imagination, by his own admission and statements.
Indeed, in one recent poll, majorities of Republicans who were informed of Giuliani’s views on social issues said that they were either minor issues or no issues at all; only 16% said that they wouldn't vote for him after being informed of these views.
In the online GOP Bloggers poll, Giuliani is consistently one of the few candidates to end up with a net positive acceptability rating. These internet denizens are well-informed, and overwhelmingly self-describe as conservative (78% self-describe as 7 or higher on a 10-scale of conservatism). If these people can support Rudy, anyone can.
Human Events, Is Giuliani the Republican Peyton Manning,
2/6/07
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1780060/posts
He denied that cities and their citizens were victims of vast forces outside their control, and he urged New Yorkers to take personal responsibility for their lives.
Yes, he insisted that citizens be responsible for their self defense by turning in their guns.
White evangelical Protestants now clearly favor Rudy Giuliani over Sen. John McCain, "despite his support of abortion rights and gay rights, two issues of great importance to religious conservatives."
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1792708/posts
These are impressive conservative credentials. And if social and religious conservatives fret about Giuliani’s more liberal social views, nevertheless, in the general election such views might make this experience-tested conservative even more electable.
Essentially, "&#^% off, religious conservatives, we don't need you." Okie then.
How many times do alleged "conservatives" have to help elect a RINO to office before realizing the strategy is stupid?
Note that there is no in-fighting on the topic of 'fiscal conservatives' but rather the 'social conservatives.'
Yeah, we will make progress when we get frindge one issue losers like you out of our party and grow it.
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