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Rudy Versus Duncan - Battle for the GOP's Soul (vanity)
PA Times | 2/27/07 | Mr. Pissant

Posted on 02/27/2007 8:58:32 AM PST by pissant

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To: kerryusama04
Rudy makes W look like Buchanan. If we get a Republican Congress, then we have 4 more years like the last 6. If we get a Democrat Congress, then we will be thinkng of W's budgets as the good old days.

I couldn't disagree more.

41 posted on 02/27/2007 9:26:13 AM PST by zarf (Her hair was of a dank yellow, and fell over her temples like sauerkraut......)
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To: rabidralph

You mean people like Santorum, Allen, and Talent, right? Allen was supposed to be our savior, and now that he's gone, people are pushing these third-rate candidates who stand no chance.

Why are Republicans losing lately? It isn't about being right on 100% of the issues all of the time. It is being right on the most important issues of the time. If you are right on a small issue like stem-cell research, while letting someone wrong preach poison about how we need to cuddle Islamic supremacists -- ahem -- give peace a chance, you're going to lose.

I want to go back to the old days where we upset safe candidates like Max Cleland by painting them as Hussein and bin Laden enablers. Focusing on your moral purity doesn't always translate into policy.


42 posted on 02/27/2007 9:26:18 AM PST by JHBowden (President Giuliani in 2008! Law and Order. Solid Judges. Free Markets. Killing Terrorists.)
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To: pissant

Gimme Hunter or Tancredo any day, Rudy is far too liberal and he isn't pro 2nd Amendment. If Rudy gets in, I'll go Third party, I'm tired of not voting my conscience. If Hillary or Obama gets in, well, I'll just leave things to God at this point and pray that this is the shock we need. However, that is too far right now in the future, we will have to see where this game takes us.


43 posted on 02/27/2007 9:26:50 AM PST by Nowhere Man (Pansy: 1987 - 2006, I miss you, Princess. RIP. Say "Hi" to Greystone for me)
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To: JHBowden
Support a weak candidate like Tancredo and get Hillary elected, and we'll see at least 2-3 ACLU kooks appointed there.

He only appears weak because you and your ilke continue to ignore Hunter at your own peril.

Do you or do you not support Duncan Hunter's Reaganesque politics? If you do, then why are you not actively getting his name out there so that he IS a strong cadidate? You dont ignore the best candidate for the nomination simply because he doesnt have name power 2 yrs out of the election. Geez.

44 posted on 02/27/2007 9:26:50 AM PST by smith288
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To: tumblindice

"And who's Adonai? That queer eye guy?"

Adonai is one of the names of God. Feel better now?


45 posted on 02/27/2007 9:26:57 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry
Adonai is one of the names of God. Feel better now?

Ouch. lol

46 posted on 02/27/2007 9:29:33 AM PST by smith288
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To: RegulatorCountry

ooops--sorry Big Sky Daddy!


47 posted on 02/27/2007 9:29:59 AM PST by tumblindice (I say I say, I was jokin'. It was just a story...)
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To: The South Texan

Odds are not in his favor...but that hasnt stopped me or many, many others from backing him. Why dont you wait and see what happens. We have time to see if he stretches his legs and can get the ball rolling.


48 posted on 02/27/2007 9:31:06 AM PST by motormouth (It's not true that life is one damn thing after another; it is one damn thing over and over.)
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To: pissant

49 posted on 02/27/2007 9:32:54 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: pissant

The differences are glaring.

No more Liberal Republicans.


50 posted on 02/27/2007 9:33:24 AM PST by Leatherneck_MT (Duncan Hunter in 2008)
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To: smith288

There's more to winning the presidency than just having the best platform. I have the same beliefs as Duncan (and just about every other FReeper) but I wouldn't recommend you voting for me for President... I'd be a disaster, believe me.

The burden is on Duncan to prove he's the man for the job, not us. He'll get his chance on campaign trail and in the debates.


51 posted on 02/27/2007 9:34:45 AM PST by Jhensy
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To: JHBowden
If you're hoping for protectionism, big government, and helping Comrade Clinton win, perhaps.

It's not protectionism to not want to outsource elements of national security or to protect ourselves from a growing trade deficit with China. And Duncan Hunter would annihilate Hillary Clinton in a debate, and probably Rudy as well. I doubt splitting the party to nominate Rudy will win the election. And how are Rudy supporters justifying his kind words for Margaret Sanger?

52 posted on 02/27/2007 9:35:14 AM PST by TheeOhioInfidel (ATTENTION: DUNCAN HUNTER WOULD PARDON THE TEXAS 3.)
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To: tiger-one

I can't agree with that, and the biggest single reason why is the issue of judges. Rudy may or may not appoint Scalia- and Alito-types as promised, but at least he's not promising to appoint hard left judges like Tribe, Stevens, Brennan, et al. Those judges can sit for 30 or 40 years. It's too big of a price to pay, IMO, for purity.

Otherwise, I might be inclined to agree.

All of this is, of course, just "what if" right now. I am hoping a charismatic conservative can carry the nomination and see no reason for so many folks to act as though it is Feb. 2008 instead of 2007.


53 posted on 02/27/2007 9:35:24 AM PST by pogo101
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To: Brilliant

Gee, everyone sounds so defeated already. If we want Hunter, he should win.


54 posted on 02/27/2007 9:35:25 AM PST by freekitty
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To: The South Texan

Holy crow, it is over a YEAR AND A HALF to the next election!

You'll pull my primary vote from me out of my cold, dead hands. Like some other things Rudy would like to take from me.


55 posted on 02/27/2007 9:36:25 AM PST by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender!)
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To: RegulatorCountry

"Duncanistas"

LOL, another derogatory group name, to go along side McCainiacs and Rudy-tooters.
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I think Rudy McRomney gets it all in one place :)


56 posted on 02/27/2007 9:36:52 AM PST by dmz
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To: Nowhere Man

"I'll just leave things to God at this point and pray that this is the shock we need."

The shock we need may end up in the deaths of your own family or yourself. It is not wise to be presumptuous.


57 posted on 02/27/2007 9:37:34 AM PST by DarthVader (Conservatives aren't always right , but Liberals are almost always wrong.)
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To: tumblindice

You're quite the jokester! I can just envision the hilarity and hijinx involved with pulling that on Muslims, regarding Allah. What sort of reaction do you get? I bet it's a real blast.


58 posted on 02/27/2007 9:38:01 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

Instead of Duncanistas, I prefer Duncan Donuts.


59 posted on 02/27/2007 9:38:06 AM PST by EnquiringMind
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To: pissant
You have written a very cogent and compelling piece. I happen to agree with you, however, one small thing sticks in my craw.

I really like GW Bush. I continue to support him without reservation, however, if I could point out one flaw that is killing us is the fact that Bush seems loathe to step up to the microphone and make the case - about much of anything - unlike Reagan who went over the media's head and went spoke directly to the people.

Like it or not Bush is the titular head of the Party and as such his lack of communication has left the Republican Party adrift, rudderless, and squeamish about standing firm and fighting.

Bush's lack of effort - or perhaps lack of desire - to boldly and consistently communicate and stick up for policies and principles has really hurt him (poll numbers), our country (emboldening the anti-war left), and the Party (the media and the Dems have gotten away with bashing us with no penalty whatsoever).

Sad, it doesn't have to be this way and I cannot understand why it is as it is so easily correctible. That's why the Dems have turned Iraq from victory to defeat.
60 posted on 02/27/2007 9:39:12 AM PST by Obadiah (Yes, I do question Democrat's patriotism.)
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