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Film’s View of Islam Stirs Anger on Campuses
New York Times ^ | 2/26/07 | KAREN W. ARENSON

Posted on 02/27/2007 5:26:26 AM PST by gridlock

When “Obsession: Radical Islam’s War Against the West,” a documentary that shows Muslims urging attacks on the United States and Europe, was screened recently at the University of California, Los Angeles, it drew an audience of more than 300 — and also dozens of protesters.

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The documentary has become the latest flashpoint in the bitter campus debate over the Middle East, not just because of its clips from Arab television rarely shown in the West, including scenes of suicide bombers being recruited and inducted, but also because of its pro-Israel distribution network.

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“The movie was so well crafted and emotion manipulating that I felt myself thinking poorly of some aspects of Islam,” said Adam Osman, president of Stony Brook’s Muslim Students’ Association, who asked that it not be shown.

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Note that Adam Osman does not allow for the possibility that it is certain aspects of Islam that should make him think poorly of Islam, not the fact that this movie exposes them.
1 posted on 02/27/2007 5:26:27 AM PST by gridlock
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So we show college kids the Islamists own words and they get angry? It must be because the kids have been taught so much make-believe garbage that when confronted with reality they can't handle it.


2 posted on 02/27/2007 5:28:22 AM PST by Peach
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“The movie was so well crafted and emotion manipulating that I felt myself thinking poorly of some aspects of Islam,” said Adam Osman, president of Stony Brook’s Muslim Students’ Association, who asked that it not be shown.

Not to mention factual? If he bothered to check out websites such as MEMRI he'd see what passes for TV programming in the ME.

3 posted on 02/27/2007 5:28:27 AM PST by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: gridlock
"There is no more stinging rebuke than the truth..."
4 posted on 02/27/2007 5:29:38 AM PST by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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Wonder if the movie talked about this:

Saudi Arabia - Conversion by a Muslim to another religion is punishable by death. Bibles are illegal. Churches are illegal. It is punishable by death for a non-mulsim to enter the "holy" muslim cities of Medina and Mecca.

Yemen - Bans proselytizing by non-Muslims and forbids conversions. The Government does not allow the building of new non-Muslim places of worship.

Kuwait - Registration and licensing of religious groups. Members of religions not sanctioned in the Koran may not build places of worship. Prohibits organized religious education for religions other than Islam.

Egypt - Islam is the official state religion and primary source of legislation. Accordingly, religious practices that conflict with Islamic law are prohibited. Muslims may face legal problems if they convert to another faith. Requires non-Muslims to obtain what is now a presidential decree to build a place of worship.

Algeria - The law prohibits public assembly for purposes of practicing a faith other than Islam. Non-Islamic proselytizing is illegal, and the Government restricts the importation of non-Islamic literature for distribution. The country has passed the "Regulation of Religious Practice" law, which stipulates a punishment of two to five years' imprisonment and heavy fines for anyone convicted of urging a Muslim to change his religion.

Syria - The constitution requires the president to be a Muslim and specifies that Islamic jurisprudence is a principal source of legislation. Sharing your Christian faith is discouraged as "posing a threat to the relations among religious groups" and carries a penalty of up to life in prison. A Christian is not allowed to proselytize – ever. Churches who want to hold an extra service must get a government permit. Sermons are routinely monitored, as is church fundraising.

Jordan - Has the death penalty for any Muslim selling land to a Jew.

Sudan - Conversion by a Muslim to another religion is punishable by death.

Pakistan - Conversion by a Muslim to another religion is punishable by death. Bans proselytizing by non-Muslims. Christians regularly put in prison for charges of blasphemy. Islam is the state religion, and in a court of law the testimony of a Christian carries less weight than that of a Muslim. Section 295(c) of the Penal Code calls for a death sentence for anyone who defiles the name of the Prophet Muhammad and requires the testimony of four Muslims for a conviction. This fosters an environment in which Muslims can feel free to use intimidation and violence against religious minorities for personal gain.

Qatar - Islamic instruction is compulsory in public schools. The government regulates the publication, importation, and distribution of non-Islamic religious literature. The government continues to prohibit proselytizing of Muslims by non-Muslims.

Malaysia - Under Malaysian law, any convert to Christianity must apply to a shariah (Muslim law) court to legally renounce Islam. Many Christians prefer to remain silent converts rather than take their battle to the shariah courts, where apostasy or conversion out of Islam is punishable by whipping, fines, imprisonment and--in the most extreme application--death.

The Maldives - In the island paradise visited by tens of thousands of tourists each year, Christianity is simply not tolerated. While local Christians – said to number around 300 out of a total population of 300,000 – do get together to worship, they do so at the risk of imprisonment or worse if discovered by the Muslim authorities. Bibles are banned, and tourists can be arrested for trying to bring them into the country.


http://www.state.gov/g/drl/hr/


5 posted on 02/27/2007 5:32:17 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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let me guess....... "Outraged muslims"...who knew?......................again. (Forrest Gump accent)


6 posted on 02/27/2007 5:32:55 AM PST by Dick Vomer (liberals suck......... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.,)
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“The question about radical Islam and how do we fight it is unproductive,” said Yehuda Sarna, the New York University rabbi on the panel. “The question is how to break down the stereotypes facing the two religions.”

Some people choose their blindness.
Some stereotypes are well deserved.


7 posted on 02/27/2007 5:33:19 AM PST by Frosted Flake
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So we show college kids the Islamists own words and they get angry?

Oh yeah. After the speeches given by Walid Shoebat and other former terrorists at UofM last month, the news interviewed students as they left. Almost every student asked called it lies and propaganda.
8 posted on 02/27/2007 5:35:48 AM PST by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: Peach

When people have their comfortable illusions ripped away, the most common reaction is not gratitude, but anger.


9 posted on 02/27/2007 5:37:06 AM PST by gridlock (Isn't it peculiar that matter what the problem, the government's solution is always "more taxes".)
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To: gridlock
For later.

L

10 posted on 02/27/2007 5:39:58 AM PST by Lurker (Europeans killed 6 million Jews. As a reward they got 40 million Moslems. Karma's a bitch.)
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It is punishable by death for a non-mulsim to enter the "holy" muslim cities of Medina and Mecca.

Did you see this story? BBC: French killed in Saudi shooting ~ Three French tourists ...machinegunned .......

Apparently, they were stopped on the side of the road on the way to Medina, which is forbidden to non-muslims.

11 posted on 02/27/2007 5:40:48 AM PST by gridlock (Isn't it peculiar that matter what the problem, the government's solution is always "more taxes".)
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This is sad, but true. During certain periods of my life, I have stood up for individuals who I felt were being harrassed and/or victimized. What did I get in return of thanks? Scorn from those I helped. Sort of like Europe. Instead of being grateful for the U.S. going after the latest threat to their peace and welfare, the shower us with scorn and ridicule. When you show someone what they believe for years was a lie, they tend to hate you for making them look foolish.


12 posted on 02/27/2007 5:42:15 AM PST by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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a documentary that shows Muslims urging attacks on the United States

What was that documentary from the early nineties that was basically the same thing?
13 posted on 02/27/2007 5:42:20 AM PST by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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Some signs are to be observed more closely than others, apparently.

14 posted on 02/27/2007 5:43:28 AM PST by gridlock (Isn't it peculiar that matter what the problem, the government's solution is always "more taxes".)
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To: P-40
hat was that documentary from the early nineties that was basically the same thing?

I'm not familiar with that one... Anybody?

15 posted on 02/27/2007 5:44:42 AM PST by gridlock (Isn't it peculiar that matter what the problem, the government's solution is always "more taxes".)
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The can't refute what the film says and shows, they can only try to shut it down. That's a typical leftie response. Interesting the parallels between the radical left and radical islam....


16 posted on 02/27/2007 5:47:42 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Rummyfan

If you can't raise the level of your argument, increase the level of your noise.


17 posted on 02/27/2007 5:50:48 AM PST by gridlock (Isn't it peculiar that matter what the problem, the government's solution is always "more taxes".)
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Saw that story... Apparently the victims were French muslims on their way to Mecca for a pilgrimage. As there really is no such thing as tourism in SA, I would take that as fact. Everyone visiting SA is either there for work/business or making a pilgrimage. Very difficult to get a visa otherwise, impossible if you're a Jew.
18 posted on 02/27/2007 5:50:59 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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The movie was so well crafted and emotion manipulating that I felt myself thinking poorly of some aspects of Islam

I'm a Christian. That doesn't mean I don't think the Spanish inquisition and the witch hunts where atrocious acts of human barbarism. Mr Osman needs to learn to distinguish between faith and murder.

19 posted on 02/27/2007 5:54:23 AM PST by SwedishConservative
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“The movie was so well crafted and emotion manipulating that I felt myself thinking poorly of some aspects of Islam,” said Adam Osman, president of Stony Brook’s Muslim Students’ Association, who asked that it not be shown.

God, NO!! Not THAT!! He thought "poorly" of some aspects of islam!!?? Horrors.

Reality bites, doesn't it, Adam?

20 posted on 02/27/2007 5:56:11 AM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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