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1 posted on 02/26/2007 9:35:50 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

With apologies to Otto von Bismarck, if old europe could not find a single "Pomeranian grenadier" ready to lay down his life to end the Balkans conflict and are even now weaseling their way out of Iraq and Afghanistan how do they expect to become a superpower? "Soft power?" Their scintillating moral force? (tee hee!).


2 posted on 02/26/2007 9:46:47 PM PST by sinanju (s)
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To: neverdem

America rescued Europe 60 years ago from Hitler and Russia so they better be thankful they have lasted this long.
they will never be a counter balance to the USA.


3 posted on 02/26/2007 9:51:23 PM PST by o_zarkman44
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"The best available estimates show that there are between 1.9 million and 2.8 million Muslims in the United States. And unlike their European counterparts, American Muslims generally do not feel marginalized or isolated from political participation."

Why would anyone emigrate to Europe when he can come here, instead? Only if you're more interested in "taking over" than in making a better future for yourself and your family.

"According to a 2004 Zogby Poll, American Muslims are more educated and affluent than the national average, with 59 percent of them holding at least an undergraduate college degree. Moreover, the majority of American Muslims are employed in professional fields, with one in three having an income over $75,000 a year."

With an increasingly secularized Mohammedan population as a result, or at least we should hope.

4 posted on 02/26/2007 9:53:19 PM PST by decal (Too many people mistake "tolerance" for "approval.")
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To: neverdem

And the number one reason... FRANCE is a part of Europe!


5 posted on 02/26/2007 9:56:59 PM PST by D.P.Roberts (Just a humble handbasket salesman- what size would you like, sir?)
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To: neverdem
Europe as a superpower to rival the US is a huge joke that is only a reality in the delusional minds of the absolute losers in the elite world of the media, academia and politics. No union of 25 countries with 25 languages and 25 cultures is going to be a coherent power to rival the most advanced, the richest and most powerful nation known to man, the United States of America.
6 posted on 02/26/2007 9:57:48 PM PST by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6197921.stm

"Transformative power" won't last long as people start to realize what Europe is really like. I'm glad I saw it for myself early so I knew which professors I could trust.

7 posted on 02/26/2007 10:00:36 PM PST by AntiFed
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Why Europe Won't Be Running the 21st Century

I didn't know they were planning to...
8 posted on 02/26/2007 10:00:37 PM PST by SirLinksalot
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Will Europe Become More Like America?

No.

However, more Europeans will become Americans.

There is fast reaching a point at which non-assimilated immigrants to European countries will cause many old Europeans to sell and move out.

Where?

Guess.

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9 posted on 02/26/2007 10:06:29 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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A good article but it's a little to rosy about the U.S. when it comes to Muslim's and their assimilation into U.S. society. We (U.S.) already have two pro Muslim voting congressional districts, one im Minnesota and one in Michigan. The U.S. Muslim population is estimated to be about 2% to 3% of the general population. If it should be allowed to grow to the 5% to 7% range we will be dealing with much the same problems that are currently taking place in France and Germany. Reason being is that U.S. Muslims DO NOT assimilate into the general population to the degree suggested in this article. They do tend to live in clusters and tend to mix within themselves even in the U.S. Once their population reaches the 5% plus range they will have around five or six representatives in congress which is a large enough number to give them an influential voting block; large enough to sway close legislative issues their way. The only way to prevent this from occurring is by some enlightened immigration policy changes that will significantly limit Muslim immigration into this country. However, I am dubious that this will happen because our current congress is gutless and the general population is oblivious.
10 posted on 02/26/2007 10:07:37 PM PST by snoringbear
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Europe is not a "super power" nor will it ever be. It is a danger to what will be left of Western society (North American Union and Australia) in the later part of the 21st century, as Islam becomes the dominate political force in Europe....maybe sooner...I just hope the European boat people don't make it over here...


13 posted on 02/26/2007 10:22:57 PM PST by Dallas59 (AL GORE STALKED ME ON 2/25/2007!)
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Both Europe and America are controlled by political correctness and that's poison to whoever practices it.


14 posted on 02/26/2007 10:23:10 PM PST by jordan8
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Europe didn't run the 20th century. They just caused most of the troubles. Europe hasn't "run" anything since Napoleon.


16 posted on 02/26/2007 11:06:30 PM PST by ozzymandus
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The only folks who are being "fruitful" & "multiplying" are the unassimilated muslims who are literally disgusted by the Europeans for being libertine perverts interested only lapdances & gay porn.

Preached a steady diet of muslim supremicist rhetoric in the mosque combined with the willingness of the Europeans to literally give away the store at the drop of a hat to avoid being viewed as bigoted in any way,shape,form or fashion the Europe of the "greatest generation" is literally a dead man walking but to stupid to fall down.


17 posted on 02/26/2007 11:23:38 PM PST by Nebr FAL owner (.308 reach out & thump someone .50 cal.Browning Machine gun reach out & crush someone)
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19 posted on 02/26/2007 11:40:12 PM PST by MinorityRepublican (Everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL)
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Indeed, the lack of faith... in God-begets hopelessness.

People keep saying that, but here I am, still doing just fine.

22 posted on 02/26/2007 11:50:36 PM PST by Zeroisanumber (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: neverdem

London is well on its way of over taking NYC as the financial capital of the world.


26 posted on 02/27/2007 12:47:27 AM PST by durasell (!)
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There is one word that demonstrates why the EU will never be more than a clubhouse of bickering kids who share the same currency:

Airbus.


30 posted on 02/27/2007 3:41:35 AM PST by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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Europe will dominate this century because it is based on a new understanding of power

If cowtowing to muslim fanatics is understanding new power then Europe is on its way to a better tomorrow.

33 posted on 02/27/2007 4:53:12 AM PST by x_plus_one (As long as we pretend to not be fighting Iran in Iraq, we can't pretend to win the war.)
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Leonard's thesis is that Europe will dominate this century because it is based on a new understanding of power, which is embodied in the institutions and norms of the European Union. He argues that the economic, political and social models of the European Union are irresistibly attractive to the countries around it, and as they adopt the European economic and legal framework, they are transformed from the inside out.



This really means attractive to elitists who see themselves as the arbiters of institutional power. Europe has a long history of inherited aristocracy. Those same elitists seek to re-establish the new european power aristocracy, the eurocrats.


There is NOTHING in the eu for the individual.

Like the old USSR, the individual exists to serve the EU.
The individual does not get served by the EU.
37 posted on 02/27/2007 7:26:09 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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Excellent read, thanks for the post.


38 posted on 02/27/2007 7:32:34 AM PST by Islander7 ("Show me an honest politician and I will show you a case of mistaken identity.")
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