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To: neverdem
Indeed, the lack of faith... in God-begets hopelessness.

People keep saying that, but here I am, still doing just fine.

22 posted on 02/26/2007 11:50:36 PM PST by Zeroisanumber (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Zeroisanumber

Soc. But, friend Euthyphro, if that which is holy is the same with that which is dear to God, and is loved because it is holy, then that which is dear to God would have been loved as being dear to God; but if that which is dear to God is dear to him because loved by him, then that which is holy would have been holy because loved by him. But now you see that the reverse is the case, and that they are quite different from one another. For one (theophiles) is of a kind to be loved cause it is loved, and the other (osion) is loved because it is of a kind to be loved. Thus you appear to me, Euthyphro, when I ask you what is the essence of holiness, to offer an attribute only, and not the essence-the attribute of being loved by all the gods. But you still refuse to explain to me the nature of holiness. And therefore, if you please, I will ask you not to hide your treasure, but to tell me once more what holiness or piety really is, whether dear to the gods or not (for that is a matter about which we will not quarrel) and what is impiety?


23 posted on 02/27/2007 12:16:53 AM PST by dr_lew
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