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Minister's Anti-Human Rights Rant Shocks Japan
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 2-27-2007 | Colin Joyce

Posted on 02/26/2007 6:56:31 PM PST by blam

Minister's anti-human rights rant shocks Japan

By Colin Joyce in Tokyo
Last Updated: 1:52am GMT 27/02/2007

Japan's education minister has stunned the country with a gaffe-strewn speech in which he claimed that too much emphasis has been put on human rights.

Bunmei Ibuki, 69, also said that Western-style individualism is damaging Japan, while he praised Japan's racial homogeneity and appeared to denigrate minorities.

Japanese newspapers reported yesterday that Mr Ibuki, a veteran politician who worked at the Japanese embassy in London for four years in the 1960s, implied in his speech in Nagasaki that problems with Japan's education policy stemmed from the fact that it was imposed by the US occupation authorities after the Second World War.

"Japan has stressed the individual point of view too much," he said. He also argued that a society gorged on human rights was like a person with an obesity-related illness.

"If you eat butter everyday you get metabolic syndrome. Human rights are important but a society that over indulges in them will get 'human rights metabolic syndrome'," he said.

The speech raises questions about Tokyo's commitment to concepts such as human rights and democracy, which Japanese commentators note were brought to Japan by defeat in the war rather than created independently by domestic reforms.

It is unclear whether Mr Ibuki's choice of the word "butter" was intentional or unfortunate, but it echoes an old disparaging Japanese expression for Western ideas: "stinking of butter".

The term came about because Westerners traditionally had a far higher dairy content in their diet than Japanese and hence were thought to smell of butter.


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To: blam
It's true many Japanese have racist attitudes, but the man has a point; mmmmmmmany people in the US have a completely unrealistic view of what is a "human right". I hear fallacies mouthed every day, that education is a right, indeed, that ANYTHING ANYONE wants is a RIGHT.

Things have gone off the rails, a bit. Stories like the one about that lady winning $5 million from McDonald's over hot coffee get passed around in Japan amidst condign, horrified Japanese disbelief.

Japan sometimes has an under-developed sense of "kenri" (rights), but in the USA, it's over the top.

I agree with narrow parts of what the man said, SORRY.

21 posted on 02/26/2007 8:04:50 PM PST by gaijin
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To: blam; maikeru; Dr. Marten; Eric in the Ozarks; Al Gator; snowsislander; sushiman; ...
...while he praised Japan's racial homogeneity and appeared to denigrate minorities.

Did not.

...implied in his speech in Nagasaki that problems with Japan's education policy stemmed from the fact that it was imposed by the US occupation authorities after the Second World War.

Not what the Japanese newspapers are saying

It is unclear whether Mr Ibuki's choice of the word "butter" was intentional or unfortunate, but it echoes an old disparaging Japanese expression for Western ideas: "stinking of butter". The term came about because Westerners traditionally had a far higher dairy content in their diet than Japanese and hence were thought to smell of butter.

Rubbish. Western media trying to read more into what was actually said. Plus Japanese are huge fans/consumers of butter (they often put it on their steaks!)

Japan * ping * (kono risuto ni hairitai ka detai wo shirasete kudasai : let me know if you want on or off this list)

22 posted on 02/26/2007 8:05:06 PM PST by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: gaijin
"I agree with narrow parts of what the man said."

I do too.

23 posted on 02/26/2007 8:19:19 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
This is a very complex issue.

There is some truth in some aspects of what the Minister said. There are also falsehoods, and other aspects and comments which are not particularly beneficial for Japan to continue to follow, in a social context. Like I said, a little truth here and there.

24 posted on 02/26/2007 8:21:37 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo
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To: DTogo

I think "bataa kusai" (as in "he (or she) rather smells of butter") is more or less passe these days. Kind of like "ao mei" ("blue eyes") meaning a Western-type foreigner. I think these are more meiji, taisho, and early/mid showa terms, not such much heisei realities anymore.


25 posted on 02/26/2007 8:24:12 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo
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To: gaijin
sekinin naki kenri mu hitsuyou

Rights without responsibilities are meaningless, and not deserved.

26 posted on 02/26/2007 8:25:44 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo
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To: blam

If it ain't fat, it ain't food.

Fat is brain food.

:-)


27 posted on 02/26/2007 8:26:02 PM PST by bannie
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To: blam

I like bread and butter,
I like toast and jam,
I like bread and butter,
cause that's the way I am

Somebody help me with this little ditty...heard my husband singin it one day, I'm not kidding


28 posted on 02/26/2007 8:28:41 PM PST by SaintDismas (.)
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To: blam

BANZAI!


29 posted on 02/26/2007 8:33:26 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Democrat Happens!)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
As an oyaji maybe this is a term he uses, much like the kodomo wo umu kikai Minister of Health. ;^)
30 posted on 02/26/2007 8:35:57 PM PST by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: blam

bump for later


31 posted on 02/26/2007 9:05:37 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: wequalswinner

I remember that little jewel from my misspent youth. Sorry, I can't remember the recording artist's name, but it was sung in a falsetto.


32 posted on 02/26/2007 9:08:19 PM PST by Texas Mulerider
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To: wequalswinner
Somebody help me with this little ditty...heard my husband singin it one day, I'm not kidding

It's by the Easybeats, circa 1966.

33 posted on 02/26/2007 9:19:36 PM PST by BlazingArizona
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To: blam

"Japan has stressed the individual point of view too much"??
Who's he kidding?


35 posted on 02/26/2007 11:15:22 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: wequalswinner

Larry Parks Lyrics

Bread And Butter Lyrics


I like bread and butter
I like toast and jam
That's what my baby feeds ne
I'm her lovin' man
He likes bread and butter
He likes toast and jam
That's what his baby feeds him
He's her lovin' man

She don't cook mashed potatoes
Don't cook T-bone steak
Don't feed me peanut butter
She knows that I can't take
No more bread and butter
No more toast and jam
He found his baby eatin'
With some other man

Got home early one mornin'
Much to my surprise
She was eatin' chicken and dumplins
With some other guy
No more bread and butter
No more toast and jam
I found my baby eatin'
With some other man



36 posted on 02/27/2007 12:20:58 AM PST by UbonGhostrider (Fire for effect)
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To: wequalswinner
: BREAD AND BUTTER

: The Newbeats

: (Larry Parks & Jay Turnbow)

Voir assi: http://www.music.bizerks.com/lyrics.html

37 posted on 02/27/2007 3:52:20 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: blam

I wonder what the Japanese was that's translated here as "metabolic syndrome."


38 posted on 02/27/2007 12:00:00 PM PST by dsc
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To: blam

The minister is right about one thing, though...Japan desperately needs to bring back corporeal punishment in schools.

But then, so do we.


39 posted on 02/27/2007 12:01:19 PM PST by dsc
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To: blam

Thank you!


40 posted on 02/27/2007 4:12:20 PM PST by Zack Nguyen
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