Posted on 02/26/2007 5:07:33 PM PST by pissant
For the third time since the 2006 midterm elections, CNNs "Situation Room" has highlighted liberal Republican Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger as a role model for the national GOP. On the Monday edition of the cable program, reporter Jeff Greenfield discussed the California leaders visit to Washington to give a speech and he also described Schwarzeneggers "centrism." Additionally, Greenfield highlighted the former movie star's liberal initiatives:
Jeff Greenfield: " In 2005, frustrated by a Democratic legislature, Schwarzenegger went to war, promoting ballot measures to curb the power of unions, to cap the budget, to change redistricting. All of those measures went down to defeat."
Arnold Schwarzenegger: "I just made terrible mistakes."
Greenfield: "So, in a remarkable 180 degree turn, Schwarzenegger began cutting deals with the legislature on education spending, on expanding health care to all children, on dealing with the budget deficit and roads through bond measures, thats borrowing. Hes joined Senator John McCain, embracing a massive effort to cut greenhouse gasses, something the conservative GOP base is not exactly crazy about. And hes even defended the Republicans public enemy number one, Hillary Clinton, over her Iraq War vote."
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The only politicians who haven't bought into the global warming crap are politicians who can't win the presidency.
It's the same with the illegal situation. Much as I like Hunter, and he's good on immigration, his poll #'s are so low that he has got to be running for a cabinet position in a republican WH. No politician has ever gone on to win the presidency with #'s that low.
I don't know why politicians are caving left and right on issues. I hate it. But it's what we have.
So I'm going with the guy who fought the mob, Arafat, Castro, the envirowhackjobs in NYC, the race pimps, etc., and doesn't back down to anybody. In addition, he's a fabulous fiscal and law and order conservative.
I'll te ll you what. When the Hunter people stop coming on Rudy threads and spamming their articles, I'll consider not spamming that particular article.
As it is, your equating Rudy with Arnold is clearly disputed in that particular article, whether you admit it or not.
You beat me to the punch friend!
Why not choose a conservative candidate and help him? I know a lot of yall have media contacts. Why aren't you fighting for the Duncan Hunters and getting them air time? Why aren't Republicans supporting him financially? I don't want to step on any toes but has the party decided they want to go more to the left and are backing a guy that can get it there?
We got a CIC now who hasn't bought into the global warming hysteria. Most Bush says is yeah, maybe man is contributing, we'll work for alternative sources of energy. But rules out any of the mandatory cuts in emmissions or any of the UN's socialist nonsense.
You are stuck on the idea that Hunter can't win. I guess I'll just have to say, for the sake of the party, you are wrong.
BTW, Romney hasn't been pulling a Rudy/McCain and touting his global warming street cred. He's more like Bush. I suggest you look at Mitt, if you insist on running with one of the big 3.
Almost as good a Duncan Hunter. Who bitch slapped old wolfie last month on his own program.
A sad punch at that
Why? Because I adore Rudy Giuliani and have for nearly 15 years. Because I think he'll be a fabulous president.
And because he's a fiscal and law and order conservative. He's just not your kind of conservative -- a social conservative.
And now I'm going to watch television with my husband.
It's not that a social conservative can't win then. It's because he is who you support. That's cool. I respect that. Thanks.
My contention is that too many GOPers have thrown in the towel on Reaganism. Sure, each candidate can point to some part of his record and claim that mantle, but Reaga was the one who finally brought the social conservatives along for the ride in a great coalition. Newt and the boys expanded on that greatly during Clintons term, giving them majorities. Even Bush had coattails, beating Algore, who was a sitting VP during a boom economy, and increasing GOP leads and during the next two election cycles campaigning vigorously to keep them.
Then between 2004 and 2006 something happened. The spine was lost in the Senate and House. Bush went out there and campaigned magnificently on SS reform, one of his biggies for fixing goverment, and the GOP leadership completely pulled the rug out from under him based on polls. The MSM constant, and mostly false criticism of the war, gave way too many republicans weak knees, so it ended up being Cheney, Bush, Rummy, Condi, and Hunter left arguing the wars merits while the House and Senate kept quiet. Other than Hunter, where was Frist and Hastert and team blasting the MSM and blasting the treasonous dems?
But make no mistake, the socons are not an expendable commodity for the GOP. Rudy still would beat the hag or Ears Obama with independent support, but the GOP will return to its pre Reagan days, and many of those people will never come back. Just look at Britain and the story of the Tories abandoning Thatcherism for a glimpse of what's to come.
Well, they have been tooting McCain's horn since 2000, so its not suprising.
Well, they're not doing it now are they? It's pretty clear that Rudy is their man of the hour, and will most likely continue to be for the next several months.
That's been the last couple of weeks only. Before that both were considered frontrunners. It will ebb and flow. When Rush decides to take Rudy to the wood shed, it will make a difference. He's already doen that to McCain.
I agree with you... This site is not as conservative as it was years ago... What happened?
I wish we had someone who was the entire package but we don't. So I'm going with what's most important to me than social conservatism and that's national security and someone who doesn't back down to the UN and the PC crowd.
I'm also interested in tax cuts and fiscal conservatism and Rudy excels at that.
I think we care about a lot of the same issues. We just have different priorities. I have nothing bad to say about Rudy but his values and mine are too far apart...so I'm backing the long shot. Occasionally they do win, and what a rush it is when they do. A few weeks ago it was "Duncan who" around here. Not many can say that today:').
I haven't spoken badly about Hunter either and hope he does well. But in SC, whenever I mention his name, people have no clue who I'm talking about.
Well keep talking then:')
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