Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

The Surge Is Working -- [You Tube]
YouTube ^ | 2/25/07

Posted on 02/26/2007 12:14:45 PM PST by bnelson44

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-27 last
To: msnimje
How long do we have to protect them from themselves? As SOON as we pull out, the Iraqi security will go sectarian (they are ALL shi'ite), and the bloodshed will start up again.

Don't get me wrong. Our young men fighting over there are AWESOME. They do everything we ask them to and more. The problem is that of Islam and Arab v. Persian hatreds that go back millinea. It is, to use a phrase from Hayek a "fatal conceit" to think that we can transform that culture.

We need to figure out a way to declare victory and get out.

21 posted on 02/26/2007 1:13:31 PM PST by DreamsofPolycarp (Ron Paul in '08)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: glaseatr
Sad thing is when we leave, it will all turn back into a big ol shit hole.

That is not what happened in Chicago in the 30s when the FBI "surge" left. Instead the local police force was retrained, and inserted in strategic locations. The FBI gave the police force the breathing room they needed to get organized (and showed them that the situation was not hopeless). Same thing here.

22 posted on 02/26/2007 1:17:54 PM PST by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! If you are military please sign at: appealforcourage.org)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: bnelson44

I pray your right, I would not mind one damn bit to be wrong on this one.


23 posted on 02/26/2007 1:20:40 PM PST by glaseatr (Proud Father of a Marine, Uncle of SGT Adam Estep A. 2/5 Cav. KIA Thurs April 29, 2004 Baghdad Iraq)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: glaseatr
I pray your right,

I pray he is right, too. I feel like the tracker on "Lonesome Dove" who said "this is Mr. Jim's horse." When Robert Duvall said "I hope you are wrong" he said "I hope I am too....., but I ain't."

24 posted on 02/26/2007 1:30:52 PM PST by DreamsofPolycarp (Ron Paul in '08)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: glaseatr

From the President's address to the governors today:

If we leave before that country can govern itself and sustain itself and defend itself, there will be chaos. And out of chaos will come vacuums; and out of vacuums will come an emboldened enemy that would like to do us harm. I like to remind people that if we leave Iraq before the job is done, the enemy will follow us here. And if our job is to protec this country, it's important we get it right in Iraq.

So I made a decision that I think is more likely to succeed than any of the alternatives that were presented to me. And I know you're concerned about the funding for your troops; so am I. I hope out of all this debate -- and by the way, there is -- you've just got to understand, here in Washington, I do not believe that someone is unpatriotic if they don't agree with my point of view. On the other hand, I think it's important for people to understand the consequences of not giving our troops the resources necessary to do the job.


25 posted on 02/26/2007 1:38:03 PM PST by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! If you are military please sign at: appealforcourage.org)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: DrDeb

Well their societies seemed to be able to help themselves. I just feel like we are the international suckers - and yes I do have a problem with muslim countries.


26 posted on 02/26/2007 1:47:16 PM PST by The Worthless Miracle (I think Jamie Dupree is annoying.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: bnelson44

Thanks. It's interesting that they are doing that.

Regards,


27 posted on 02/26/2007 1:52:05 PM PST by Buckhead
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-27 last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson