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To: XeniaSt

Firearm merchants are controlled and regulated versus an individual or individuals organized with tons of firearms. Good book to read is called "Coup d'etat" by Luttwak. It argues why attempts by individuals to organize private militias will be met by government action to break it up due to internal security concerns. Modern governments (free or unfree) will never tolerate private militias.


49 posted on 02/26/2007 9:22:09 AM PST by Fee
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To: Fee
Firearm merchants are controlled and regulated versus an individual or individuals organized with tons of firearms. Good book to read is called "Coup d'etat" by Luttwak. It argues why attempts by individuals to organize private militias will be met by government action to break it up due to internal security concerns. Modern governments (free or unfree) will never tolerate private militias.

49 posted on 02/26/2007 10:22:09 AM MST by Fee

Correct me if I'm wrong but I read that
Koresh was licensed FFL and attended
gun shows in Waco and was personally
know by the Sheriff as a dealer.

How many guns can a FFL own ?

200 ?

1000?

5000?

How many guns can a citizen own?

1 ?

5 ?

25 ?

100 ?

200 ?

1000 ?


54 posted on 02/26/2007 9:38:51 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHVH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya’aqob.”Isaiah 60:16)
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To: Fee

So explain to me again why we are allowing the Saudis to set up jihadi indotrination & combat arms training schools(mosques) in this country . Explain please why the Nation of Islam has the "Fruits of Islam " Security corp.


64 posted on 02/26/2007 10:34:07 AM PST by Nebr FAL owner (.308 reach out & thump someone .50 cal.Browning Machine gun reach out & crush someone)
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To: Fee

A lot of formal militias were pretty well tolerated for long after Ruby Ridge and Waco, especially in Georgia and Montana. Koresh did not form anything like a "militia." You have latched onto somebody's rule and simply use it to explain whatever happens along that might involve some of the same elements. Koresh dealt in guns (properly licensed dealer) thus he is an organized drilling militia. That is leftist reasoning. Someone is perceived to be "not one of us" anymore therefore he is guilty of whatever ignominy we can think of because words have no nonpolitical meanings.


116 posted on 02/27/2007 4:57:47 AM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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To: Fee
Firearm "merchants", AKA dealers in the US have to have an FFL, regardless of the size of their inventory. THe Davidians did have such a license, they did conduct business as firearm dealers. They also had a Christian rock band, and an autobody/restoration business off of the main premises. IOW, they had several cottage industries which supported the group.

You have to get some money from somewhere.

As firearm dealers, the BATF could inspect their paperwork and inventory at any time, and had been invited over to do so the previous December while making inquiries of another FFL holder the BATF was questioning in re the Davidians.

Because they kept to themselves, they were an easily demonizable group, little understood by the mainstream. Their religious beliefs as members of the Branch Davidian of the Seventh Day Adventist Church were not widely known or understood. Their lifestyle was not "mainstream", and they were easily branded a "cult". From there, the newspapers could print virtually anything about them in order to create in people's minds justification for whatever the Government did.

Allegations ranging from child abuse to methamphetamine manufacture, to sexual improprieties hit the page above the fold, none of which were the jurisdiction of the BATF, and none of which mandated a 100 agent armed raid, especially as most were demonstrably false and the locals knew it.

If 30-40 people from my church all enjoy firearms, and some go shooting together with similar firearms, does that make us a militia?

If you buy the militia line, you aren't going to listen, anyway, and methinks you have spent far too much time reading the likes of Morris Dees' drivel.

163 posted on 06/03/2007 11:51:09 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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