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"Waco: The Rules of Engagement" Review
waco93 ^ | 9/17/97 | Siskel & Ebert

Posted on 02/26/2007 7:38:11 AM PST by cougar_mccxxi

This movie is moving around the country. They are sometimes having discussions after it. I think that anyone who thinks they know what happened at Waco has another thing coming.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: engagement; rules; the; waco
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To: OB1kNOb
Earlier FLIR sweeps reveals something else of interest. The compound was almost out of water. Feds knew this before the attack.
161 posted on 02/28/2007 10:53:58 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

10%-15% of the true events at Waco are now in the public domain. That will soon change. The fire, first and formost, was a destruction of evidence, and secondly a mere diversion. Is John Q. ready for the truth? Can they handle it? Or do they need to wait until 2017?


162 posted on 06/02/2007 8:19:26 PM PDT by CFA_Ghost93
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To: Fee
Firearm "merchants", AKA dealers in the US have to have an FFL, regardless of the size of their inventory. THe Davidians did have such a license, they did conduct business as firearm dealers. They also had a Christian rock band, and an autobody/restoration business off of the main premises. IOW, they had several cottage industries which supported the group.

You have to get some money from somewhere.

As firearm dealers, the BATF could inspect their paperwork and inventory at any time, and had been invited over to do so the previous December while making inquiries of another FFL holder the BATF was questioning in re the Davidians.

Because they kept to themselves, they were an easily demonizable group, little understood by the mainstream. Their religious beliefs as members of the Branch Davidian of the Seventh Day Adventist Church were not widely known or understood. Their lifestyle was not "mainstream", and they were easily branded a "cult". From there, the newspapers could print virtually anything about them in order to create in people's minds justification for whatever the Government did.

Allegations ranging from child abuse to methamphetamine manufacture, to sexual improprieties hit the page above the fold, none of which were the jurisdiction of the BATF, and none of which mandated a 100 agent armed raid, especially as most were demonstrably false and the locals knew it.

If 30-40 people from my church all enjoy firearms, and some go shooting together with similar firearms, does that make us a militia?

If you buy the militia line, you aren't going to listen, anyway, and methinks you have spent far too much time reading the likes of Morris Dees' drivel.

163 posted on 06/03/2007 11:51:09 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Fee
David Koresh felt that one day the government will come after his group,...

So instead of disarming that supposition, the Government fulfilled his prophecy? D'oh!Every farmer or rancher in flyover country was now looking at the homestead from a defensive, tactical, military point of view, and realizing that if the Davidians had just put the Barretts on the tow vehicles (a .50 BMG round or two will fix an engine real good) and swept the canvas covered trailers from back to front (with all the select fire weapons they allegedly possessed) there might have been four survivors, instead of four dead.

If the Davadians "ambushed" anyone, they did a really lousy job, especially with a half-hour to prepare.

Heck, most cicillian amatuers could set up a much better 'ambush' with just a little thought, and no farmer, rural person, or homeowner looked at his land quite the same after that.

Somewhere in the back of their mind they created a tactical contingency plan, and maybe did more, cacheing a little ammo and an old rifle or two.

The 'Militia' movement blossomed as a result of Waco, despite attempt to villify it, because in the face of reasoned opposition, there was, and remains, no way for the Government to justify its actions. All they could do is put up the smokescreen, from burning the evidence to the softpeddaling of questions in the COngressional inquiry. The latter was televised, in part. Each side of the aisle got 5 minutes to ask questions, then the other side, alternating. On CNN, that translated to 5 minutes of the Chuckie Schumer show, followed by 5 minutes of commercials. They kept that up for the first day. On C-SPAN, at least you got the 'live' feed in its presumed entirety, but the real meat and potaoes came later on in the hearings, and that was only televised in part after the house was done with its business for the day.

Of course, the House would spend hours doing special orders, or not, the feed was edited, and the timing was such that the hearing cast might start anywhere from 6 PM to Midnight and run until from 1 AM to 4 or 5. In short, with no TIVO, and only VHS, you would need to gang a group of VCRs on timers to record it or stay up all night to watch. I got some of it on VHS, but even that was tough.

So the facts were, for all practical purposes, squelched after the first day of grandstanding, and that only presented form one side for the average viewer.

When it came to the FLIR tape, tow of the nations foremost FLIR interpreters woke up dead in the morning in rapid succession, Bill Colby allegedly drowned accidentally, and finally someone surfaced with some credentials to say the IR was relfected sunlight. Do a search on it, learn about reflected IR. Learn and learn of the deceit involved in the coverup of one of the most heinous acts done by a gevernment agency in a long itme that was not confined to the venues of Congress or an administrative office.

164 posted on 06/03/2007 12:18:03 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Sybeck1

That video has been removed “due to a terms of use violation”.


165 posted on 06/03/2007 12:25:45 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Google video has it:

http://video.google.com/videosearch?um=1&tab=wv&ie=utf8&oe=utf8&rls=com.microsoft%3Aen-US&q=Waco%20A%20New%20Revelation%20


166 posted on 06/03/2007 5:06:50 PM PDT by Sybeck1 (Bush on Immigration: Damn the Base, Full Speed Ahead!)
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To: CFA_Ghost93

At the rate things are going, we’d better get as much of the truth as we can, as soon as we can. Otherwise, we’ll have to press two for ‘Ingles’.


167 posted on 06/04/2007 6:30:18 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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