Posted on 02/26/2007 7:38:11 AM PST by cougar_mccxxi
This movie is moving around the country. They are sometimes having discussions after it. I think that anyone who thinks they know what happened at Waco has another thing coming.
(Excerpt) Read more at waco93.com ...
I told my best friend, a officer with Homeland Security about this and he should watch this.He is quite conservative, but told no, they deserved it, even the kids. Hopefully that isn't all of the LEO opinions.
Given Reno's history as a prosecuter in Florida, I'd say it is a given that she would thoroughly enjoy something like the Waco barbecue.
Waco A New Revelation (In 14 parts)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmkQZP-Kyuc
This is the sequel from a few years later, into further detail. It is in 14 parts.
I really don't think anything "backfired" at Waco. Reno was entirely too smug afterwards.
Starting with Waco the price of used military rifles began to rise (at least in Florida) and continued to rise with a sharp turn up in the summer and fall of 94. The rise collapsed the day after the 94 elections.
Implied threats to the right.I think this was conceived as some sort of Reichstag moment but the Leaders didn't get the population rallying to the government side and it led to the formation of a tremendous amount of arms and ammo hoarding and hiding all over the country. It was meant as an object lesson to the opposition and turned into kind of an object lesson for the Leaders.
Lon Horiuchi, that name burns into my memory like a brand after Ruby Ridge. His behavior there sickened me then, and sticks in my memory. I wonder what ever happened to him and could imagine easily enough what I would do should I ever be his judge here on earth.
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And the reaction was the flocking of men to the militias and the acquisition of arms and ammunition-by-the-case by large numbers of people. As horrible a precedent as those 2 actions were, they showed the Our Leaders that such actions were going to get more difficult and would provoke active opposition. That seems to be why there were no further Wacos or Ruby Ridges. And further, the assault weapons ban and noisy attempts to begin the arms banning process in general were followed by state after state getting on the concealed carry bandwagon and the further rationalizing of gun laws, not necessarily cause and effect here but lots of interesting timing for the Agencies to muse upon. Frankly I never put these cause and effect possibilities together until I reflected on it all again prompted by this thread. After it happened and there was no accounting for it I was convinced that They Got Away With It. Now I don't quite think so any more. The individual actors didn't suffer for their crimes but perhaps they learned that repeating them would become more and more expensive and even dangerous.
We tend to blame this stuff on Clinton but, yes, RR was on Bush's watch and the beginnings of Waco, the initial treatment of it as a terrorist action, were also on his watch, I think. Clinton, and I think Mrs. Bill was instrumental in the way it played out, along with that megasadist Reno.
Google it. There is a LOT of material on this particular victory of American armed forces.
That impression assuredly follows from #73.
The next 9-11 will probably occur after the election when Mrs. Bill is in office or the Barracks Bomber and Homeland Security no longer watches for ME types but instead is focused on Christians and conservatives. The Democrat will react by protecting the Mohammedan population and their mosques and, if it is a more destructive event, will move to round up gun owners and ban guns altogether, especially if there are any riots against the mohos or mosque-burnings. Remember the Democrats believe America to be the source of all the evil in the world and also believe that the mussulmans are their allies in the project of making America Good.
You weren't paying attention when it all went down, were you. Google it.
During the Waco operation and for some time after, inconvenient people had accidents or got shot in incidents of one sort or another or had sudden heart attacks-lots of one-car accidents and unexplained small-plane crashes, and don't forget Vince Foster.
You didn't follow it as it was happening or in the after math, did you?
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LOL. And your interest in asking is what?
News Flash!!! The Second Amendment is not the ONLY amendment. It's not even the first.
That is certainly not what I'm hearing in your posts. You imply that you can't be a conseravative unless you are a gun lover.
Even as you protest you exhibit very suspicious attitudes for a Constitutionalist conservative. Legal Concealed Carry in DC would reduce the crime rate and make it a much safer place. The criminals will obtain and carry guns no matter what. They will be less apt to use them to assault citizens if there is a good possibility that the citizens are also armed. That is what happens just about everywhere that CC becomes law. England pretty much ended private gun ownership and the use of guns in crime has gone way up and burglaries have skyrocketed.
"All governments want internal security in one form or another."
From a historic and Constitutional perspective, for most of America's existance, the assumption was than the militia Was teh guarantor of domestic tranquility be being the ultimate check on an over reaching government.
The normal mind can't really imagine the Branch Davidians attacking anyone.
Alas, the normal mind must now accept the government having burned alive so many of our fellow citizens.
Normal seems to be to an ever increasing extent, a walk in what was once known as the locked ward.
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