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Outdoor Life And Jim Zumbo Part Ways
http://www.outdoorlife.com/outdoor/columnists/article/0,19912,1592623,00.html ^ | 2/25/07 | Outdoor Life Editor

Posted on 02/25/2007 9:01:38 PM PST by Mike THE BEAR Chavez

In light of comments made by Jim Zumbo in his February 16, 2007 blog posting on the magazine’s website, Mr. Zumbo has offered to terminate his association with Outdoor Life, and the magazine has accepted his offer.

(Excerpt) Read more at outdoorlife.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: banglist; firearms; hunting; jimzumbo; outdoors; zumbo
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To: Jezebelle
Your link doesn't work.

Huh. I just clicked on it and it works great for me.

61 posted on 02/26/2007 1:38:02 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard
I happen to agree with Jim regarding his preference for more traditional firearms -

That is your right. But I can't for the life of me recall you ever calling for the choice other folks make to be banned by the Government.

He should have known better than to use the word "ban" under any circumstance.

One would think so, but apparently Mr. Zumbos snobbery got the better of him. It's too bad. I enjoyed his show even though it's most likely I'll never be able to afford a Montana Elk or Rocky Mountain Sheep hunt. And I'll certainly never be able to afford some of the fine custom rifles he toted around.

Well let this be a lesson to all those TV hunting guys that it's not just hunters who watch their shows and read their columns. Hopefully some of those idiots in DC are paying attention to what just happened here as well.

L

62 posted on 02/26/2007 1:38:11 AM PST by Lurker (Europeans killed 6 million Jews. As a reward they got 40 million Moslems. Karma's a bitch.)
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To: Byron_the_Aussie

Zumbo said, "I say game departments should ban them (military rifles) from the praries and woods."


63 posted on 02/26/2007 1:39:56 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Pukin Dog
The guy basically called me a terrorist because I choose to defend my home and property with more than harsh language and bright lights.

Frankly, that is the part I don't get. The very weapons he decried are ideal for an old fart to use for defense. Don't get me wrong, I am a very fit and young great-grandpa, but some day the M1A is going to weigh a little heavy in my hands and I'll prefer a lighter weapon with even less recoil.

For a man whose stock in trade was the use of words, ill-conceived does not come close to what he did with his phraseology. A writer, a gun/hunting writer, of all people should have known better.

That he could write those statements could even deign to dub an AK clone or AR a "terrorist" gun by mistake defies the imagination.

Nope. He crapped in his mess-kit, bigtime... and the dinner bell went off round the web.

It is abundantly gracious of Ted Nugent to offer the guy a chance for reform, and to make an apology. That is to Ted's credit. As for Mr Zumbo, we'll see, but trust broken is seldom restored.

64 posted on 02/26/2007 1:42:40 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Jezebelle
I don't like the use of the term "firearms fraternity."

Zumbo used the phrase, "hunting fraternity".

65 posted on 02/26/2007 1:43:43 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Byron_the_Aussie

"Zumbo never said that.

What's the matter with you people? Hounding Zumbo out of a job isn't enough to satisfy your thirst for vengeance, so now you have to manufacture evidence?"

Zumbo said: "I say game departments should ban them from the prairies and woods,"

News flash for Byron: Game departments are GOVERNMENTAL agencies.

Maybe you're thinking of the Elks Lodge or the Lion's Club?


66 posted on 02/26/2007 1:46:25 AM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Good analysis and well-said.


67 posted on 02/26/2007 1:48:38 AM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: Lurker

Well, he's about to experience a sharp drop in his income, so he may not be commissioning any custom rifles for quite some time.


68 posted on 02/26/2007 1:51:22 AM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: Lancey Howard

Finally got it to work. Thanks. Nothing that about a dozen tries wouldn't cure. :>


69 posted on 02/26/2007 2:01:29 AM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: Lancey Howard

That's worse. The Second Amendment isn't about hunting, but when he condemns AR he shows his ignorance. How can a hunter and shooter for forty-something years not understand ARs to such an extent that he says we look like terrorists for even having them and that they should be banned in the field?


70 posted on 02/26/2007 2:05:14 AM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
As for Mr Zumbo, we'll see, but trust broken is seldom restored.

Hear hear.

We shall see what he does to make amends for his truly grievous error.

but some day the M1A

Now I know you to be not only a fine judge of character but a man of excellent taste as well.

Regards,

L L

71 posted on 02/26/2007 2:06:43 AM PST by Lurker (Europeans killed 6 million Jews. As a reward they got 40 million Moslems. Karma's a bitch.)
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To: Mike THE BEAR Chavez
Judging from some of the replies to this post, people are missing the essence of the Zumbo controversy. Those of us who support the RKBA know that even ONE dissent, one sign of weakness, one sign of division and the gun grabbers will use it like water does on a rocky hillside. It gets into the cracks (the split), and then weakens the rocks until it fractures. They will use Zumbo and others like him to weaken the Gun Rights movement, divide it, and then make an assault on it to defeat it. They are relentless, cunning, and ruthless. Unfortunately, Zumbo is collateral damage and to them, a useful idiot . Sad, I grew up on his columns along with others.
72 posted on 02/26/2007 2:09:26 AM PST by PAMadMax (Islam is the enemy of all mankind...AlJazeera is its PR Firm)
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To: Jezebelle

Thank you!


73 posted on 02/26/2007 2:27:56 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Byron_the_Aussie

"Sickening stuff.
After Zumbo's decades of positive contributions to hunting..... he made a mistake, he apologised for it, but everyone wants their pound of flesh."

He may have been good to his dog, but this issue is about the second amendment.


74 posted on 02/26/2007 3:27:43 AM PST by School of Rational Thought (Dont')
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To: mysterio

>>Otherwise, gun grabbers will use him as a martyr to paint lovers of the Constitution as psychotic, unforgiving meanies.

I've already experienced Leftis doing exactly that.


75 posted on 02/26/2007 3:34:28 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: Byron_the_Aussie
And I reckon when things settle down more than a few good-hearted gun owners will be ashamed of how Zumbo was treated.

Only the liberal ones. Freedom lovers are in the fight of our lives with the the (rhymes with hunt) Carolyn McCarthy and the other Democraps pushing a sweeping ban of those very weapons that Dumbo Zumbo dismissed as terrorist weapons. His elitist "guns are for hunting" attitude is what the gun ban crew say also. So if he made a "mistake" it was publishing his true feelings. The 2nd amendment isn't about hunting it's about being able to successfully resist tyranny.

His apology was as genuine as could be expected

Oh and I read both versions of his so called apology. In it he stated that he didn't realise that semi-autos "had legitimate sporting purposes" which isn't what gun ownership in the USA is about and showing that he still isn't admitting that what he said is wrong. He's simply compounding the error.

76 posted on 02/26/2007 3:41:19 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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To: Byron_the_Aussie

"...do you like being called a terrorist by somebody who's supposedly on your side...
He never called you (or anyone else) a terrorist.

You guys just making stuff up, now?"


Cleary you your prolific opinions are without benefit of actually having read Zumbo's initial words nor his subsequent "apologies".

Is this a "mistake" too?







77 posted on 02/26/2007 3:41:54 AM PST by School of Rational Thought (Dont')
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To: Byron_the_Aussie

"..if it's "selling out" and "cowardice," to sever ties with a writer who terms a product they manufacture a "terrorist" weapon, I just wonder how you'd define courage...
LOL! 'Courage'? Don't flatter Remington, pal.

A few frightened e-mails back and forth to their PR firm doesn't constitute courage."

And how would you characterize Zumbo's swift retractions, when faced with financial loss? Courage?



78 posted on 02/26/2007 3:45:29 AM PST by School of Rational Thought (Dont')
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To: Lurker
...Remington was quite right to wet their pants at the reaction of the gun buying public in this country...

Horse hockey.

All that shows is that they wet their pants easily. If a major spree shooting was undertaken with a Remington semi-auto and President Hildabeast demanded they stopped production of those models they'd wet their pants just as fast.

79 posted on 02/26/2007 4:18:24 AM PST by Byron_the_Aussie (http://www.iwo.com/heroes.htm)
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To: Lancey Howard
...Zumbo said, "I say game departments should ban them (military rifles) from the praries and woods...

Right. And that ain't the same as a 'governmental ban', is it?

80 posted on 02/26/2007 4:20:29 AM PST by Byron_the_Aussie (http://www.iwo.com/heroes.htm)
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