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To: DKNY; Mrs. Frogjerk; Fiddlstix; cowtowney; xsmommy; TitansAFC; coton_lover; SoCalPol; ...
You really claim to be Catholic? If he is still married to wife number two in the eyes of God, then his relationship with wife number three is an ongoing, public mortal sin.+

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402 posted on 02/25/2007 4:13:59 PM PST by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: narses
You really claim to be Catholic? If he is still married to wife number two in the eyes of God, then his relationship with wife number three is an ongoing, public mortal sin.+

You overstep all bounds when you question someone elses faith. Unlike you, I don't know how God judges Rudy Giuliani or anyone else for that matter. I guess we have you here to tell us.

406 posted on 02/25/2007 4:27:21 PM PST by DKNY ("You may have to fight a battle more than once to win it." --Margaret Thatcher)
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To: narses

Is Hillary attending CPAC, too?


444 posted on 02/26/2007 5:39:15 AM PST by TitansAFC (Liberalism is social terrorism, and it's much closer to home. No to Rudy, under any circumstance!)
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To: narses; DKNY
"Wife" #1 was his first or second cousin whom he married without an ecclesiastical waiver of the impediment of consanguinity. The priest who witnessed that marriage was another first or second cousin presumably well aware of the illicit nature of the "marriage." Thus "marriage" #1 was either void ab initio or quite annulable under Canon Law.

"Wife" #2, Donna Hanover, was a previously married non-Catholic who is unlikely to have sought an annulment of her first marriage. Thus "marriage" #2 was barred by her previous and still existing marriage.

At the point of civil divorce #2, Rudy was still a never married man in the eyes of the Church.

Judy Nathan is apparently Rudy's civil wife #3 and, if she was previously unmarried (for whatever Canon Law reason and I don't know that she was), his first and only wife in the eyes of the Church. In that event, there is no ongoing mortal sin of which we would know, other than homosexual shenanigans of others.

We ought to be careful not to unjustly accuse Rudy of what may not be his sins. We can disagree with his public policies in various respects or support other candidates while being just.

445 posted on 02/26/2007 12:23:31 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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